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@'~ArgonCyanide777':
I wasn't sure, myself, but in the other thread you said Daz basically sucks for animations. What were the issues you found?
There is no inverse kinematics in DAZ. What is inverse kinematic? Basicaly if you have feet of the model touching the ground, and move the pelvis, inverse kinematics (IK) will figure out how to move the joints so that the feet keep touching the ground at the same spot. Which is kind of a big deal in sex scenes, since usually the feet / hands remain stationary while the hip moves.
Another thing is that in the vanilla installation there are almost no animation controls. The ones which are present are so bad that I consider them a slap in the face. You basicaly need to spend $40 on keymate and graphmate just to get the most basic of animation control.
I read a forum post somewhere, that the company releasing daz is actually trying to discourage people from using the program from animation and it would explain a lot. It is really baffling how little is needed for daz to be a decent animating platform.
@'EFgho':
However, maybe I'm overly optimistic about the whole thing,
If you think something is really easy and profitable, yet nobody seems to be doing it, chances are it's not 
I made couple of animations, if I optimize the scene I can get one frame in 1280x720 rendered in about 3 minutes. And this is on a pc with gtx 1080 + 2x 980 ti. So if you want to have something rendered in the same quality, real time, 24 fps, you just have to figure out how to render it about 4000 times faster. On a $3000 pc.
Eh you guys worry about the hardware too much, that's honestly the easiest part where you just need money. You don't need anything crazy, just a computer with couple of 980 ti's that can run 24/7. Memory is not an issue at least in Octane, since you can do out of core rendering - use RAM instead of VRAM.
The animation is the harder part, but at least the sex loop can be done pretty fast, if you learn a couple of tricks. It's the non-looped stuff that is a bitch. And you don't need to animate 4000 keyframes, computer does that for you. If you are using such shitty assets that they need to be animated frame by frame, you have only yourself to blame.
The hardest part, at least for me, is the software. Or rather figures. If you can use 3Ds max, maya or something and have the knowledge of rigging and creating a character there, you are golden. Otherwise you are stuck with genesis, which works great in daz, but is unusable outside of it. Unfortunately, daz itself is unusable for animation, so that's a catch 22. I am trying to figure out a way to use genesis 2 outside of daz, I have had some success but it's not issue free yet. I have another idea which I want to pursue when I finish my current project.
Generally I think there is money to be made in animation and I don't think you need ridiculous setup to get you started (however it will set you back couple of thousand dollars). But you have to love what you are doing and pursue money as a added bonus, if you just want to animate for money, I think there are better ways to make them.
@'jspartan1':
Thanks for the detailed replies.
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I am not sure what you have in mind, but we are talking about literally thousands of dollars.
VR devices have very low market penetration, also it would be very hard to get it render in real time while approaching anything even close to the render quality there is right now.
TL;DR you would be bleeding money to create a product that very few people can even use.
Daz can be used for animations in theory, in practice there are many limitations which make it incredibly hard.
Hey,
I made some animation projects. I think there definately is a market for animations, but as you mentioned, quality animations. I think people have high expectations of any 3dx products (as they should).
If you have no experience with daz 3d or similar programs and/or animating itself, you have your work cut out for you. I am gonna be honest: you're not gonna have a good time. I would suggest starting out with image set with Daz3d, or if you really want to go into animation, pick up Source Filmmaker (you will most likely not be able to sell anything made with SFM though).
edit: As for the type of contect you should produce, imo most important is making something you yourself would enjoy. 3d animation is HARD and tedious work, and working on something you ultimately don't enjoy is unsustainable.
Well I don't think it's just that, maybe the lighting emphasises the details?
Basicaly what others said. I made two titles with animation loops. each took me about 4 months. I think I could finish them in half of the time if not less if I skipped the animations.
That being said, I am going to keep on doing animations, hopefuly getting close to a fully animated title. Right now what is holding me back is the software, if you can't make your own figures (like me) you are pretty much forced to use DAZ3D, which is absolute cancer.
For me, there is something about the way they are rendered. I see they have good bone structure etc. but they are too… defined? Their skin and faces seem kind of harsh to me, like they would not be fun to touch. Maybe toning down bump or something to make them a bit smoother? Just my 2 cents
@'~ArgonCyanide777':
Nice.
Whatever happened to the one with a spiky mutant option for m4 though?
I guess it got…
Shafted
Anyway dick looks great, but I assume it doesnt work for gen2? Would you reccend dick of similar quality for g2f?
Ok I figured out the issue, I don't have many transparent meterials in the scene so I had specular depth at 1. I bumped it up a bit and it looks better.
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The file doesnt work for me, do you think you could export it in octane format?
I am using Path Tracing.
Yeah, I think I fucked up somewhere. Also, what do you mean by the medium node?
edit: ok, I connected the turbulence to both materials' opacity and it looks better.
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Animating in DAZ is pure cancer, you are basicaly forced to buy at least keymate, possibly graphmate before you even start and then you run into the problem you mentioned. There is a handy script which will help you:
However it is still a huge pain and requires a lot of forethought.
Hi, sounds very interesting. My idea was to use blender for animating, so that I could export the resulting animation into Daz. There were some promising results, but there are some bugs and limitation both on Daz and Blender side, which were preventing me from importing the animation into daz perfectly. Having the full work figure work in Blender would be great, right now I am trying to animate in daz and it is exhausting…
And the name of this addon? I cannot find it on the official page.
