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  • My brother did a run of Mardi Gras posters from 2001-2005 using Poser. He made a whole lot of money for other people, and very little for himself. That's the "standard contract" for ya.

    He's also using Poser for printed commercial offerings, though the site's down currently for reconstruction and IP protection.

    I've updated my employer's safety video using Daz Studio still renders (Fire Safety/Fire Extinguishers). Just have to record the narration on that a couple of other segments.

    I've used it mostly for poorly-done derivative porn - my primary focus has always been original music - but lately I've been refining my technique in Daz Studio/Iray (which is pissing me off).

    I've also got a few non-porn ideas, but haven't nailed any of them down yet.



  • @'Gator762':

    @'Redrobot':

    @'hibbli':

    we planned to sell also "pure and clean" comics in near future.

    meanwhile my expirience AND my renderfarm is big enough to push out 2 chapters per month without problems, just have to push back my lazyness. 1st is needed for monthly costs, 2nd is planned for amazon and other regular shops. as i said, "clean" stuff and with other artist name :) sexy ofc, but no smut.

    3DX is hell of fun and pretty good income, but on long term i wanna go for regular stuff anyway

    That's a good idea pushing into mainstream territories. I'm going to be working on a comic in March with a writer from DC comics. We're going to do a Hard R rated version as well as an X rated version for Affect/Renderotica/Redrobot3D store. The R version we'll submit to Amazon and other online comic shops.

    How are mainstream comics going? When I was thinking of the comics, it seems the pron would be easier in the regard of only needing a single scene or two for a porn comic, vs. multiple scenes for a mainstream comic.

    I tried selling my 3DX comics on Amazon but ran into a lot of problems with their censorship. There was much harder content being put out but somehow I must have been reported and they scanned over my work like a hawk. Eventually they outright banned me and took all my titles (only 3) off the shelf. Doing a multipanel page can work, but it'll take up more time. I actually have a background in sequential art and illustration so that helps me a lot when it comes to breaking down scripts and what to emphasize in my images.



  • @'Redrobot':

    @'hibbli':

    we planned to sell also "pure and clean" comics in near future.

    meanwhile my expirience AND my renderfarm is big enough to push out 2 chapters per month without problems, just have to push back my lazyness. 1st is needed for monthly costs, 2nd is planned for amazon and other regular shops. as i said, "clean" stuff and with other artist name :) sexy ofc, but no smut.

    3DX is hell of fun and pretty good income, but on long term i wanna go for regular stuff anyway

    That's a good idea pushing into mainstream territories. I'm going to be working on a comic in March with a writer from DC comics. We're going to do a Hard R rated version as well as an X rated version for Affect/Renderotica/Redrobot3D store. The R version we'll submit to Amazon and other online comic shops.

    How are mainstream comics going? When I was thinking of the comics, it seems the pron would be easier in the regard of only needing a single scene or two for a porn comic, vs. multiple scenes for a mainstream comic.



  • @'thehawkman':

    Heh, I just saw a meme with a black woman and I thought it was funny. I haven't much time for games in a long time, and haven't reallu been a part of the gaming current, so I won't even pretend to know who Deus Ex is. Wasn't that a game? I mostly watch playthroughs on Youtube to get my fix nowadays. Gaming masturbation. The closest there is to the real thing. More effective in terms of time spent though.

    I can't really keep up with gaming either. Just a little play to unwind.

    OK for context sake:
    -Used to be a YT channel called PyramidHead87.

    -Channel had a guy who played 2 characters with rather opposing personalities to much comical effect. He knew how to play off stuff in the moment like in standup comedy, even alone. His characters were

    PyramidHead: based off characters in Silent Hill, I think.
    DeusEx: supposed to be some cyborg underling but he's far from a good subordinate.
    Among other characters voiced by other people. I was almost one of them.

    -Channel was about vidya, reviews of vidya, and had a series of videos with a semi-storyline to it called "ASDF Dual Paradox".

    Found the video. You might find it funny or you might not.
    It's of PyramidHead playing a (super difficult) ROM hack of Super Mario World, with Deus Ex agitating him on the side. Kaizo means asshole in Japanese I guess.
    At 10:12 is specifically where Deaus Ex tells PH "you also need Jesus" but I would watch for at least a few minutes prior if not the whole video up to that point for context sake to let it build.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYetCesaGc

    About 9-10 years ago he was the reason I joined YT. A mock game review for something called the "silent Rob project". They way he got so pissed off as the character was funny. Actually believed it was for real at first.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea9wrFD-L50

    What kinds of game vids you like? I can make some recommendations but you probably know them already.

    Well, it works with normal transmapped hair. So that's amazing. And with conforming clothes. One more for the Poser side.

    Do you have to code in the python scripts yourself or what?

    Funny :)) See this smells like hypocrisy to me. Putting out hypersexy outfits or characters, and then acting like they're not meant for porn. But I think it is a matter of personal opinion, not really having to do with DAZ. Like Hivewire with their no-genitals on Dawn stance.

    Probably more just tying to be as mainstream as they can to maximize customers.

    As for the part with "not made for porn". Sh-yea. That's why Gen 3 now have accurate genitals. Of course they can't really turn into Renderotica, they'd lose a lot of customers and expose themselves to all kinds of fake moral outrage. It's rife with SJWs out there. People looking to get outraged about something. A species I've particularly come to dislike due to recent events in Europe. So they have to play it safe.

    Same sort of shit different crowd of people. Before it was religious holy-rollers. Now it's more secular. SJW is the secular equivalent to a religious zealot in my view. Well, that and the militant vegans who resemble Jehovah's Witnesses. Except I think Vegans don't realize just what a prey item they are. Like Trevor said to a vegan chick who was hanging loose and looking for fuckbuddies: "You'll suck cock but you won't eat meat?! It DOESN'T make SENSE to me." I'm against unnecessary slaughter (or cruelty and abuse), but am not put off enough to not hunt or do rancher work.



  • I've gotten to know some vendors and modelers for DAZ now that I'm doing promotional work for some of them. DAZ has a strict "no adult or erotica" policy when it comes to selling on their store. For the genitals, I think they include them in case medical professionals ever use the models for something. Not sure.



  • You remind me of when Pyramidhead87 played that Kaizo Mario World romhack and DeusEx was giving him shit.

    Heh, I just saw a meme with a black woman and I thought it was funny. I haven't much time for games in a long time, and haven't reallu been a part of the gaming current, so I won't even pretend to know who Deus Ex is. Wasn't that a game? I mostly watch playthroughs on Youtube to get my fix nowadays. Gaming masturbation. The closest there is to the real thing. More effective in terms of time spent though.

    Anyways, that's a pretty good thing I'll have to look into. Looks a little more improved than LAMH.

    Well, it works with normal transmapped hair. So that's amazing. And with conforming clothes. One more for the Poser side.

    I think I dun fucked up with the author/vendor. PROTIP: don't tell Daz vendors you do porn or talk about this or other adult based 3D sites. They'll stop talking to you abruptly. Must be that whole "we want to move away from porn" thing Daz has going on.

    Funny :)) See this smells like hypocrisy to me. Putting out hypersexy outfits or characters, and then acting like they're not meant for porn. But I think it is a matter of personal opinion, not really having to do with DAZ. Like Hivewire with their no-genitals on Dawn stance.

    As for the part with "not made for porn". Sh-yea. That's why Gen 3 now have accurate genitals. Of course they can't really turn into Renderotica, they'd lose a lot of customers and expose themselves to all kinds of fake moral outrage. It's rife with SJWs out there. People looking to get outraged about something. A species I've particularly come to dislike due to recent events in Europe. So they have to play it safe.



  • Anyhoo, I have a number of fictional works outside porn/r34 I want to try and experiment with.

    Some of it is simply recreating fictional characters as a fan tribute.

    Perhaps some VERSUS comics. Much in the same vein as Marvel vs DC, or similar.

    Fictions, stories. Alterverse, multiverse, etc. Some of it more obviously inspired by external sources than others which would be more original.

    Stories with dystopic view of the future, semi-reality based.

    @'Gator762':

    Have you looked at outoftouch's hair? He has some excellent hair,. Hers in that last pic is a lot longer than Balana or Akaste.

    I'll usually go for shoulder length hair or less, long hair is generally a PITA in Poser. I've purchased lots that didn't have enough handles to handle poke through and/or gravity. SWAM and OOT are two excellent vendors that usually have good controls. There could be others (Akaste Hair by 3Dream is excellent) but I sorta learned and don't often venture from those 2 in Poser.

    This came to mind, far closer to what you're after. Maria hair by OOT:
    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/maria-hair-and-oot-hairblending/99547/

    Yeah I suppose that might work for her later years. And if you looked at the not compatible list, you'd see I've listed several by both vendors. Though I can understand if you went TL;DR about it.

    Thing is I'm not 100% sure whether I'd want it to look more realistic or to apply more 2D toon shaders as for comics. But that does give me a viable option for Daz.

    @'thehawkman':

    Y'all mofos need Jesus. I mean… You need this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy14fKQDDzc

    You remind me of when Pyramidhead87 played that Kaizo Mario World romhack and DeusEx was giving him shit.

    Anyways, that's a pretty good thing I'll have to look into. Looks a little more improved than LAMH. I think I dun fucked up with the author/vendor. PROTIP: don't tell Daz vendors you do porn or talk about this or other adult based 3D sites. They'll stop talking to you abruptly. Must be that whole "we want to move away from porn" thing Daz has going on.

    So for other plane/poly based it's either Z-brush, Blender, gmax, or a new one I just discovered curvy 3D which promises to be easier and friendlier than gmax. Or a combination.



  • @'~ArgonCyanide777':

    @'Gator762':

    There's gotta be other options… Besides, I have bought a lot of hair pieces I thought would look good, put them on characters then meh. Tried a few other times then never used again.

    I looked at that one, check out Akaste hair. That's a really good one with lots of good options to customize to it. Vaguely similar and I think it looks better too.

    It's one of my favorites, I'll have to throw it in Daz and see how it works.

    THIS is what I'm after. A partial nod to her, essentially.

    !
    While I'm hardly a die-hard DBZ fan (I do like team 4 star's abridged parody VO), the one character whose appearance I like if nothing else is Android 18. This was one detail that was a must. The initial iteration of my OC could be done on Daz, but the later years cannot. shrug
    ! And in later years:

    @'Gator762':

    Have you looked at outoftouch's hair? He has some excellent hair,. Hers in that last pic is a lot longer than Balana or Akaste.

    I'll usually go for shoulder length hair or less, long hair is generally a PITA in Poser. I've purchased lots that didn't have enough handles to handle poke through and/or gravity. SWAM and OOT are two excellent vendors that usually have good controls. There could be others (Akaste Hair by 3Dream is excellent) but I sorta learned and don't often venture from those 2 in Poser.

    This came to mind, far closer to what you're after. Maria hair by OOT:
    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/maria-hair-and-oot-hairblending/99547/

    Y'all mofos need Jesus. I mean… You need this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy14fKQDDzc



  • @'hibbli':

    we planned to sell also "pure and clean" comics in near future.

    meanwhile my expirience AND my renderfarm is big enough to push out 2 chapters per month without problems, just have to push back my lazyness. 1st is needed for monthly costs, 2nd is planned for amazon and other regular shops. as i said, "clean" stuff and with other artist name :) sexy ofc, but no smut.

    3DX is hell of fun and pretty good income, but on long term i wanna go for regular stuff anyway

    That's a good idea pushing into mainstream territories. I'm going to be working on a comic in March with a writer from DC comics. We're going to do a Hard R rated version as well as an X rated version for Affect/Renderotica/Redrobot3D store. The R version we'll submit to Amazon and other online comic shops.



  • we planned to sell also "pure and clean" comics in near future.

    meanwhile my expirience AND my renderfarm is big enough to push out 2 chapters per month without problems, just have to push back my lazyness. 1st is needed for monthly costs, 2nd is planned for amazon and other regular shops. as i said, "clean" stuff and with other artist name :) sexy ofc, but no smut.

    3DX is hell of fun and pretty good income, but on long term i wanna go for regular stuff anyway



  • Have you looked at outoftouch's hair? He has some excellent hair,. Hers in that last pic is a lot longer than Balana or Akaste.

    I'll usually go for shoulder length hair or less, long hair is generally a PITA in Poser. I've purchased lots that didn't have enough handles to handle poke through and/or gravity. SWAM and OOT are two excellent vendors that usually have good controls. There could be others (Akaste Hair by 3Dream is excellent) but I sorta learned and don't often venture from those 2 in Poser.

    This came to mind, far closer to what you're after. Maria hair by OOT:
    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/maria-hair-and-oot-hairblending/99547/



  • @'Gator762':

    There's gotta be other options… Besides, I have bought a lot of hair pieces I thought would look good, put them on characters then meh. Tried a few other times then never used again.

    I looked at that one, check out Akaste hair. That's a really good one with lots of good options to customize to it. Vaguely similar and I think it looks better too.

    It's one of my favorites, I'll have to throw it in Daz and see how it works.

    THIS is what I'm after. A partial nod to her, essentially.

    !
    While I'm hardly a die-hard DBZ fan (I do like team 4 star's abridged parody VO), the one character whose appearance I like if nothing else is Android 18. This was one detail that was a must. The initial iteration of my OC could be done on Daz, but the later years cannot. shrug
    ! And in later years:



  • @'~ArgonCyanide777':

    I have some fiction comics I'd like to make and there are several 'poser only' pieces of content necessary for some characters if I am to do this in 3D. On character who I made was a minor supporting character, initially, and she would ideally use the Balana hair. However the more I think about it, the more I want to make a series dedicated to her adventures.

    I'm also looking at horror pieces. Dark stories.

    There's gotta be other options… Besides, I have bought a lot of hair pieces I thought would look good, put them on characters then meh. Tried a few other times then never used again.

    I looked at that one, check out Akaste hair. That's a really good one with lots of good options to customize to it. Vaguely similar and I think it looks better too.

    It's one of my favorites, I'll have to throw it in Daz and see how it works.



  • I have some fiction comics I'd like to make and there are several 'poser only' pieces of content necessary for some characters if I am to do this in 3D. On character who I made was a minor supporting character, initially, and she would ideally use the Balana hair. However the more I think about it, the more I want to make a series dedicated to her adventures.

    I'm also looking at horror pieces. Dark stories.



  • Just a hobbyist here, and have barely scratched the surface of 3DX - mostly pinups.


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