The WIP Post Girlfriends 4 Ever DLC thread



  • @'Kingsizednuts':

    Well said femalefutafan!

    The animations are much better. Most easily seen at the dick I felt…

    that being said some of the senses did have an odd distortion effect to them on Sayako's dick. im fairly sure it was supposed to be saliva (I think) but to me it looked like Sayako's dick was getting compressed OR it could have been an over exaggerated skin movement effect.



  • Great work! What next?



  • @'miro':

    Now yes, the story elements may have taken a hit for many reasons incl. trying to go for slightly more of a team effort, and so they didn't come together quite as well as for G4E, but really no improvement in terms of the animation over G4E, really? REALLY? NONE? Something is freaking clouding your judgment if you are seriously telling me there's no improvement at all. I may be slightly biased, but it's freaking NIGHT and DAY! shakes head … well for me anyway.

    I don't think I can appreciate the technical side of things on the same level because I've never worked with enterprise grade animation or rendering tools, and I didn't assemble the DLCs frame by frame. If I try to put myself in that headspace here's what comes to mind:

    much of the "meat" of G4E was sayako making rough, conquering thrusts in various positions, in DLC1 things are a bit slower and smaller, more precise things are going on. Hands stroking Sayako's shaft, lips morphing around a cockhead and sack, small movements of the head and torso to make the actual autofellatio happen while also not making it look like sayako has fractured her spine or pelvis. DLC1 looks like it was more technically demanding and probably pushed you as an artist.

    As I said earlier in the thread, I think the DLCs are the best futa content released since G4E and you have a lot to be proud of. Futa autofellatio content is rare outside of Fanatic Fetish doujins, I wouldn't be surprised if its a very long time before something approaching this level of quality/effort/ambition is seen again.

    Really my only concerns have nothing to do with the animation at all and are probably questions for your flash dev, i.e.

    • Rimjob isn't accessible from player
    • Big dick fun stuff missing?
    • Dupe video files in DLC1 folder, supposed to be something else?
    • Bug with "Choose DLC" screen

    Miro, you just shipped something you worked on for a very long time, in a stressful fashion with the server exploding and compiling errors and what not, be happy! Put your feet up for a moment before you dive back in, I don't think you had a very relaxing weekend.



  • Also, not to pour salt into fresh wounds, but no one (at least in this forum so far) has been outright trolly and/or hateful like the Release Event.

    A lot of people are openly saying they are disappointed and/or un-hyped, but people even as critique-y as me and Tiffany have said some of our high points.

    I can understand how you'd have expected everyone to get this and silence the doubt, and being extremely putt off when little has changed with the audience, but no one has straight out said it was trash.

    You might have been even more excited to see our reactions than we were to get the new DLCs, I have no idea how you feel. I have always supported you. I have NEVER pirated your work, every little piece I have bought with earned money.

    Not that I feel justified or entitled, but I think opinions from vets like me and Tiffany are worth the time to read.

    If I were to pick 2 things to improve on, I'd say make a smoother, better player next time, and put as MUCH AS POSSIBLE using AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE.

    My main critique, more than anything else, is the glitchy/laggy/choppy player and the massive amount of angle changes.

    I can pass on the sound and the story, if those other two things were fixed. You told us a long time ago we would have new sounds/actresses, that was to be expected.
    While you never said we'd have to re-download and play on a new player, it is kind of common with DLCs made on a separate engine.

    Might be making a bigger deal than needed about a porn title, but obviously this project has been more of a Developer-to-Community sensation more than just a futa-rate discussion.

    So before I finish this, I just wanted to clarify AGAIN

    I, ESS, DO NOT THINK THESE DLCS ARE TRASH

    I just don't think you surpassed your previous work, and there are some things that could have been much better.

    You have a wonderful imagination, Miro.
    I hope this set-back doesn't cause you to give up your passion.



  • @'miro':

    Lol, a lot more hate than I expected. I'm a detail freak myself, but seriously? Seriously?

    If all that stands out are details and inconsistencies and there's nothing to be said about the animation and composition, well then… I guess you can't please everyone... and there will always be haters.

    Yes, it wan't as "revolutionary" as G4E since it doesn't have that "newness", but c'mon a "review" explores both sides not the niggly things you don't like.

    Now yes, the story elements may have taken a hit for many reasons incl. trying to go for slightly more of a team effort, and so they didn't come together quite as well as for G4E, but really no improvement in terms of the animation over G4E, really? REALLY? NONE? Something is freaking clouding your judgment if you are seriously telling me there's no improvement at all. I may be slightly biased, but it's freaking NIGHT and DAY! shakes head ... well for me anyway.

    I don't get angry easily, but for fucks sake... lol.

    Now you know what we have felt like for over 2 years.
    Welcome to the club.
    Maybe now you can understand our pain.
    I mean, we still bought it. You're getting paid.

    BUT!!

    If I may take one single second to give you props, I'll clarify what I said at least. I don't know about Tiffany and the others, but for me, the biggest flaw in the overall animation is the new player.

    While you can definitely see that more resolution, and detail was put into the DLCs, the player just destroys it.
    When I go onto the original G4E, everything is creamy, smooth, and fluid.

    I'm not sure if it's because I don't own a $3,000 rig, or if the others don't own a $3,000 rig, but the new DLCs just seem choppy, laggy, glitchy.
    I own a $400 2014 TouchScreen laptop, I wouldn't call it junk, but I still think an investment like that should be able to play an app alright.

    If I take a STILL SHOT from the DLCs and compare it to a STILL SHOT of the Original, quality is better, but you are the developer, Miro.

    You get to nit-pick every single little frame. To you, the difference is night and day.
    For us, that just get "the big finish", there is a lot more grey.

    While you put everything you possibly could into this project, making us wait years for it to be perfect, all I can say is that you tried way too hard.

    It is obvious you are disappointed that all the haters and skeptics are still kind of skeptical over this massive masterpiece, it's to be expected.
    We've been using our voices on the forums, shouting at the top of our lungs since February of this year.

    Not sure what to tell you.

    It didn't suck. I bought it. I paid for it.

    But it wasn't better. And a lot of people agree.
    I'd brush off your wounds (ego most likely) and make the next project fresh and exciting; something to surpass the original title.



  • @'miro':

    Lol, a lot more hate than I expected. I'm a detail freak myself, but seriously? Seriously?

    If all that stands out are details and inconsistencies and there's nothing to be said about the animation and composition, well then… I guess you can't please everyone... and there will always be haters.

    Yes, it wan't as "revolutionary" as G4E since it doesn't have that "newness", but c'mon a "review" explores both sides not the niggly things you don't like.

    Now yes, the story elements may have taken a hit for many reasons incl. trying to go for slightly more of a team effort, and so they didn't come together quite as well as for G4E, but really no improvement in terms of the animation over G4E, really? REALLY? NONE? Something is freaking clouding your judgment if you are seriously telling me there's no improvement at all. I may be slightly biased, but it's freaking NIGHT and DAY! shakes head ... well for me anyway.

    I don't get angry easily, but for fucks sake... lol.

    I'm sure most people could understand your frustration but I think you're taking this all too wrong. I wouldn't consider anyone's criticism as "haters" because that's simply not true. It's pretty evident that nearly everybody agrees on the same issues with the DLC's, some of which are glaringly obvious. Tiffany pretty much explained it all perfectly. Those were serious issues…the quality of animation has went down.

    However, the movie sections were certainly well done, just badly executed in the end. This is obvious to see, you cannot deny this. There is sound issues, bad framerate and a grainy finish...

    I'm not going to rehash what has already been said, just i wouldn't consider us haters..that's actually quite insulting.



  • Well said femalefutafan!

    The animations are much better. Most easily seen at the dick I felt…



  • @'miro':

    Lol, a lot more hate than I expected. I'm a detail freak myself, but seriously? Seriously?

    If all that stands out are details and inconsistencies and there's nothing to be said about the animation and composition, well then… I guess you can't please everyone... and there will always be haters.

    Yes, it wan't as "revolutionary" as G4E since it doesn't have that "newness", but c'mon a "review" explores both sides not the niggly things you don't like.

    Now yes, the story elements may have taken a hit for many reasons incl. trying to go for slightly more of a team effort, and so they didn't come together quite as well as for G4E, but really no improvement in terms of the animation over G4E, really? REALLY? NONE? Something is freaking clouding your judgment if you are seriously telling me there's no improvement at all. I may be slightly biased, but it's freaking NIGHT and DAY! shakes head ... well for me anyway.

    I don't get angry easily, but for fucks sake... lol.

    the animations are in many ways better…..... its just both DLC have some core bugs and problems and some content is not in them or is not working as indented. if the bugs and hitches that some have been saying get fixed. I have NO doubt that people will see the overall improvements in animation quality. one thing is tho the cum idk to me was sorta odd in look and liquid physics.



  • dude…. to all the haters, miro's animation/images are top of the line right now... and his work has always been since he "appeared" debuted onto the scene. no one else comes even remotely close to what he is putting out.

    all you non-contributing haters gotta relax and show appreciation.

    well haha the reason im posting (i never do) but in your post couple days ago miro about dlc 2 and whats included, i thought it said "monster shlong"... it was removed? ; ( why?

    btw your service email person was really helpful with everything! wow that person was great. hahaha


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    Lol, a lot more hate than I expected. I'm a detail freak myself, but seriously? Seriously?

    If all that stands out are details and inconsistencies and there's nothing to be said about the animation and composition, well then… I guess you can't please everyone... and there will always be haters.

    Yes, it wan't as "revolutionary" as G4E since it doesn't have that "newness", but c'mon a "review" explores both sides not the niggly things you don't like.

    Now yes, the story elements may have taken a hit for many reasons incl. trying to go for slightly more of a team effort, and so they didn't come together quite as well as for G4E, but really no improvement in terms of the animation over G4E, really? REALLY? NONE? Something is freaking clouding your judgment if you are seriously telling me there's no improvement at all. I may be slightly biased, but it's freaking NIGHT and DAY! shakes head ... well for me anyway.

    I don't get angry easily, but for fucks sake... lol.



  • @'Tiffany':

    Well, he did say there were some size issues with the installer that they had to work out… I guess there was just way too much cock, hahaha.

    _u2_Dw27btU



  • Well, he did say there were some size issues with the installer that they had to work out… I guess there was just way too much cock, hahaha.



  • Ok, so despite the quality issues and incredible amount of scene repetitions, I actually quite liked the dlc's. The intermission and finishing animations were long and well done. Some of his better work for sure. It was just the actual sex animations themselves that felt a little 3 second loopy. The pov changes for the staple scenes were a good idea, but the number of random angles given to a few others felt unnecessary. The cum's lack of stickyness didn't bother me simply because I realize what Miro is doing, and I'm usually the last one to cut the man slack.

    My only real issue, the singular glaring betrayal of the piece, IS THAT HE DIDN'T PUT IN THE DAMN MONSTER DONG SCENE. That shits been teased since the beginning of this whole mess, and was listed as part of the dlc one, then the dlc two, then taken away altogether at the last second…

    Why?



  • Ah, saw this thread too late, so I'll just copy/paste what I posted in the G4E comments:

    In the “make movie” part, when I queue up the original missionary cumshot scene, it freezes the playback. Can’t go back (play back controls don’t work), I have to close the app. The scene works fine when I select it from “scene select” or “play/original”. Anyone else having this issue?

    The voices seems odd/out of sync, but I guess that was done because you can slow down/speed up the playback without affecting the sound. I don’t see the benefit of having to install G4E/useing Adobe Air because the playback isn’t 100% smooth, I still get some hiccups on playback (I have it installed on an SSD, so there shouldn’t be loading issues) Otherwise, fantastic, I’m amazed how good the DLC is – so hot! Please, Miro, can we have some moar? In fewer than 2 years, too! :D

    Just to add, some of my favorite scenes are the cumshots that are part of very long playbacks with a lot of changing angles. Personally I'd prefer being able to play back (even loop) just the cumshot scene from 1 or 2 of my preferred angles. I like the make movie with queuing my favorite positions/angles loops, just like to be able to do that for the cumshot scenes as well.

    @'nen':

    I dove in to the assets folder and made a few discoveries

    • the rimjob scene exists in the files but for the life of me I don't see a way to play it from the player. if you want to view them, assets -> dlc -> DLC2 -> video, Affect3D_G4EE16P01A01 through A06

    Nice find, I can play them in a browser (no sound of course), would love to be able to play them in the G4E player, with sound, in the movie maker!



  • @'Bob:

    When is DLC3?

    The release date WILL NOT BE ANNOUNCED! :P



  • I love G4E and the new DLCs. That said I am also a detail freak. Nothing comes close to your work Miro, but I want more and better in the future.
    I will add to Tiffany's post that the cum comes out magically with a gap between the tip of her cock and the beginning of the stream. You have got to fix that. In DLC2 some cum hovers in the air which I hope is unintentional. Also as stated in an earlier comment a focus point for future projects is to make the cum partially sticky instead of acting like silicone that completely runs off without leaving a mess.
    Another focus point should be hair as Tara's hair is too glossy and Sayako's hair looks dead/mistreated. Tara's hair looks wet, but in a greasy way.

    I love the slightly oiled skin texture and the rubbery heavy "feel" of the their bodies. Sayako's boobs are too big for my taste, but I am mostly an ass man.

    I missed a traditional doggy style and Tara's ass cleavage is too deep in the reverse cowgirl. Spread her ass and let some pussy skin come out and in during penetration.

    Also I agree that the flow in the scenes could be improved. Too much rotating the angles (should be under fun stuff instead)

    The cock play, cock worshiping worked really well and again nothing comes close to your work.

    I feel a little ashamed to give criticism to the world champion of 3DFX content, but you seam to want move the genre even further and my comments are purely with this in mind.

    When is DLC3?



  • I only had a chance to skim through DLC1 with way too less time, yet. Hence, just this for the time being:
    From the first moment the autofellatio request was brought up by Tara, I've always been fantasizing about some never-ending swallowing of Sayako (Tara's assistance very welcome), so I am particularly happy that our girls left the scene so well nourished. :D

    (They only need much more training in this (gulp). :P I hope there will be many occasions for us, in the future, to attend … :-))

    And of course: A big thank you to you, miro, and all the staff for completing this project. Whatever the respective reactions may be, I am really glad, you made it.



  • "- the rimjob scene exists in the files but for the life of me I don't see a way to play it from the player. if you want to view them, assets -> dlc -> DLC2 -> video, Affect3D_G4EE16P01A01 through A06"

    Yes! This was a major reason I wanted the DLC, but I can't get it to play either…

    Any idea how to get that going?



  • @'Kingsizednuts':

    @'nen':

    I dove in to the assets folder and made a few discoveries

    • the rimjob scene exists in the files but for the life of me I don't see a way to play it from the player. if you want to view them, assets -> dlc -> DLC2 -> video, Affect3D_G4EE16P01A01 through A06

    Perhaps one of them were supposed to be the rear double hand job by Ayako as mentionned in the old work in progress thread. It is nowhere to be found at least.

    Thanks I was looking for that, maybe it's supposed to be an easter egg. This thing is a masterpiece bravo.
    The double blowjob towards the end of dlc 1 is fantastic.



  • @'nen':

    I dove in to the assets folder and made a few discoveries

    • the rimjob scene exists in the files but for the life of me I don't see a way to play it from the player. if you want to view them, assets -> dlc -> DLC2 -> video, Affect3D_G4EE16P01A01 through A06

    Perhaps one of them were supposed to be the rear double hand job by Ayako as mentionned in the old work in progress thread. It is nowhere to be found at least.


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