The WIP Post Girlfriends 4 Ever DLC thread



  • @'Tiffany':

    I just watched both DLC all the way through. This is going to be a really scathing review (far more than normal from me, to the point that I'm not sure you could even call it constructive criticism) so don't read it if you aren't prepared for that:

    ! DLC 1
    I didn't really like it. The transitions are really bad, the sound is off, and the cumshots look really fake, especially the cum itself - it's like wax or plastic or something, it even bounces up off of Sayako's skin at one point as if it were solid. The cum wasn't even coming out of the dick, there was clearly like a full cm or two space between the dick and the cum stream. The quality seems to have went way down. I don't even think it's 1080p, there's a lot of pixelation and jagged edges. The voice acting seems bad this time around too. The sound is way too loud and there's no sound control either, aside from on/off. The music is especially too loud. Some of the renders are pretty nice but it's too disconnected from the viewer. Not just third person but almost like you're actually just watching a video. The feel just seems really different from the original. Something is just really off about the whole thing. I watched it all the way through and it did nothing for me. Not even a little wet.
    ! Sayako's first autofellatio scene is pretty awkward looking with the way she just moved her upper torso and the way it all looked, though I do kinda like Tara's butt jiggling. The breast groping scene looked pretty fake and kinda gross. I didn't like the ball sucking either, and the balls themselves seem way too big and round. I was okay with Sayako's breasts with the original but definitely not this time around. They just look way too big and weird. It's the shape and the way they droop far more than the size itself.
    ! DLC 2
    Tara sucks dick
    This one was a lot better. The opening scenes are better and you actually get to choose who sucks the dick. I didn't like the couch being translucent. That was really weird and distracting. The dick started rippling towards the end of the Tara sucking scene which was really weird. I don't know what that stuff that was clinging to Tara's hand was either, because there wasn't really any saliva or anything on the area of Sayako's cock that Tara was sucking. So, that was pretty weird.
    ! The loops get pretty bad at some point, which is super noticeable. The first few times it starts happening the copyright flashes but later on when the camera pans between the back of Tara's head up to Sayako, it's really noticeable. It's really noticeable after that too. Super jerky camera movements.
    ! The more I saw the balls the more I thought they needed to come off, and Sayako's butthole really weirds me out. It just doesn't look right. Tara's doesn't really look right either. Tara's butt crack is way too spread apart too. Her butt cheeks should be squished together. I've said most of this stuff before.
    ! Getting rid of Sayako's voice actress was a super bad choice. I can't even tell them apart anymore. I knew I wasn't going to like that and I definitely didn't.
    ! Sayako seems super bad at eating pussy. As a guy maybe you can't tell, but as a girl… she just seems really really bad at it. I should have liked those scenes but I ended up having to skip each scene once it started to get too repetitive. Watch this: http://xhamster.com/movies/828860/nina_hartley_pro_licking_pussy.html
    ! Overall I think both DLC would have been way better without any visible cum whatsoever. Just sort of like how Tara was on top sucking and Sayako started cumming and it was really obvious. It's just ruined when she comes off it and the cum was so fake and bad.
    ! Sayako sucks dick
    This wouldn't actually play. It just looped back to the opening scene and asked to choose again. My guess is that somehow that's supposed to link to DLC 1 but it doesn't for some reason.

    @'at91':

    @'altroo':

    Is it just me or is the "monster shlong" fun stuff scene missing from DLC02?

    I couldn't find it either…

    Yeah, I didn't see anything like that.

    holy….. now that I have been looking for these problems. yeah shit I see them now. has quite a few quality inconsistences, and bugs. (still was enough to get me wet but that was from 3 feet away from the screen) damn that's kinda saddening now that I clearly notice most if not all these problems. now that I think of it. couple of the senses did outstay there welcome. (cant remember the names as of this time) sure some of you will know what ones I mean.



  • When it comes to my professional work (website writing currently), I have found the longer my break before the final polish, the more likely I am to spot incongruities or mislaid content. Getting 99% of the work done early, then taking a few days/weeks off from it, and giving it a final spit-shine just before the deadline, makes for a cohesive package that 'always' impresses. It appears these DLCs are lacking this crucial final step - with missing/mislaid scenes popping up willy-nilly, as Miro was busy frantically trying to fix technical bugs right up until release. I hope he can get an extensive enough team in place with the proceeds from these DLCs, to let 'them' worry more about the technical and business issues, so he can focus on things other people simply CANNOT do. (The :idea: creativity:idea: aspect.)

    Miro seems to take a very hands-on approach, but whether it is out of necessity or preference is yet to be determined for a certainty. Hopefully the coming months will see for the hiring of additional hard-working team members who can better distribute out the workload… allowing each person to work on their respective skills/specialties when it comes to any new projects.

    And pleeeease... NO more announcements until the project is 99% done! :dodgy:

    @'Charles:

    Just an extra question: Would it be ok if I or another person create a thread with all the dialogues written down, and where we should create it? Some people have problems with understanding them, so at least Ammon and I thought of maybe try writing them down.

    Yep, where should the subtitles/transcript for G4E + DLCs be placed? I mean, a forum thread could be created, but I feel like it would get lost in the shuffle, and many of the purchasers would never know it existed. Ideally, it should be included in with the patch/fixes for the DLCs, as an .RTF.

    Also – I brought this up months ago, knowing full well everyone would be too busy to acknowledge at the time -- but I have also written out some dandy accompanying text for “Tara’s Second Assignment”.
    —–> http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4800

    When you get the chance Miro, (in the next few months) please give it an evaluation, as I think it would be a great quick addition to breath some life back into Tara's and Sayako's first meetup... even if only as an included .doc file in the 2015 Bundle.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————
    G4E story thread: “Tara’s Second Assignment” —–> http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4800



  • @'FutaStuff':

    • One (at least?) scene is missing from the selection menus and the full movie.

    If i play full dlc2, Choose scene work only for Tara, choice for Sayako drop me to start dlc2. Problem with loop sound in the end of one scene(dont remember which one). Nothing other…



  • I haven't spent enough time with the DLC to be able to give an objective review of the actual content so I'm going to save the positive aspects for later and I'll just highlight some of the problems on the technical side.

    • Content added to the original G4E has created some continuity errors.
    • Quite a lot of the DLC2 scenes don't seem to loop properly (took me out of the experience more than I thought it would).
    • Animation on the default speed setting is really choppy (thought it was my shitty laptop at first but moving the slider fixes it).
    • The new voices are too identical to really tell apart in most scenes.
    • One (at least?) scene is missing from the selection menus and the full movie.

    Did anyone else experience these things?



  • of the new DLCs, have only checked out DLC 1 so far, but wanted to write my compliments:

    lot of fun/really hot animations, Miro! the autofellatio scenes demonstrate 3dx's unique potential to bring fantastical sex acts to life - making a case for the porn genre to anyone who might still doubt it.

    also loved the ambition of the cumshot scene - i'm sure in terms of effort and time, it's hard to justify taking chances in projects like these, but i was glad to see you take a chance with this scene - it was a doozy :)

    thanks for sharing this with us all. keep pushing yourself and keep up the great work!



  • Two words.

    TEFLON CUM. :dodgy:

    That's the only way I can describe the fluid dynamics you settled on. The stuff doesn't stick to anything … and that is most apparent in DLC 2, where cum not only "pours out of Tara's mouth" (leaving her mouth dry and her teeth clean?), but it also "slams into her shoulder AND BOUNCES OFF" before falling back down again under the force of gravity. The stuff doesn't ADHERE to ANYTHING! It has no … sticky factor ... to cause it to cling to surfaces it comes in contact with.

    Whatever this ... silicone gel stuff is ... it'll pool up nicely if it falls into a hollow of something where it can come to rest, but the "power wash" mode of high velocity impact is just ... wrong. The mere fact that Tara AND Sayako both(!) have what amounts to "dry mouth" after getting that much cum pumped into them means that the quest for "correct" fluid dynamics settings is far from over!



  • Well… bored.
    For next work dont use childrens links with hentai and tits. Try something like
    xvideos /video301447/lesbian_blondes_merry_christmas
    with same hole acrobatic
    pornhub /view_video.php?viewkey=1422935737,
    xvideos /video4178737/hardcore_fisting,
    xvideos /video10583960/fist_and_double_fist,
    xvideos /video7431051/incredible_asshole_fisting_till_elbow.
    F*, sexy poses, mb sexy shoes. After original Girlfriends 4 Ever and 1,5 years this both DLC with "bj only" looks very bored...



  • Looks good, but I thought we were getting some other fun stuff as well. There was a scene with Ayako and Sayako I believe?

    Did it get totally removed?



  • I hope Tiffany doesn't discourage future titles away from the size of the balls and so forth, that was actually the best feature imo.

    I honestly was super hyped for these DLCs but was just majorly let down. For some reason, i led myself to believe there was going to be more sex scenes (since I didn't like the original sex scene positions), but apparently not, which was okay, just hyped myself up for nothing.

    The quality seemed wayyyy bad this time. Some of the video sections seemed distorted and grainy. The volume was all over the place and a lot of voice clips didn't align properly with the animation at all…and the loops themselves didn't even connect fluidly so it was an obvious transition.

    I don't want to get too in-depth because Tiffany covered most of the issues, but it's just disappointing. That isn't to say it was bad, just disappointing after so long waiting for this. The cumshot scenes were pretty damn good, though. I don't think the cum looked that bad, could be worse (have seen worse).

    Tbh, after i got done watching it, i went back to porn just to finish...i think a lot of the lack of interest stems from the camera angles and so forth. You don't (other than the long movie section bits) connect to either one of them with the camera angles chosen. They're mostly 3rd person and far away. You need those facial animations, which were done in some scenes, to express the pleasure; the angles didn't do that justice very well.

    I hope this doesn't discourage Miro because it shouldn't. It is still leagues better than most animations out there, but it just feels clunky. Too many discrepancies between each scene and looked kind unpolished.



  • For the BMT purchasers what is the time frame for getting G4E and DLC1 into our downloads history? I sent an email back in 2013 when first asked showing proof of purchase through BMT and I sent another email per instructions of the recent post last night.

    I imagine a lot of BMT purchasers of G4E would like to know the answer to this since there are discounts in the store currently that expire in a week.

    Thanks :)



  • I managed to see something weird in the DLC.02, although it's really stupid. It happens in "Sayako says no!" scene. When Tara has already played with Sayako's cock with her "magic hands" and is beginning to blow her (around 4/5 in the time frame), in the background couch there's seem to be two rendering problems.

    In a quick change of angle, this background couch seems to disappear some frames just before completing the angle change, resulting in a "Now you see me, no you don't!" couch edition. It seems it happens twice. The other issue is that, later on, the background couch is like… Half-done? It lacks the "golden" texture and is mostly transparent. Don't know if this is intended, of course (Well, just say yes XD).

    I know I know, is just a couch in the background but, for some reason, it caught my eye right away in the first time I saw the scene XD

    Personally I really like both DLC. DLC.01 cumshot is really awesome, with the back and forth between Tara and Sayako. So well done! I overall prefer DLC.02 but, on the contrary, its cumshot scene felt a little bit rushed, especially since it came from two sex scenes where Sayako's cock wasn't even touched. Nevertheless, one can really understand that maybe Tara's pussy is so good, that licking it excited Sayako a lot and just needed a "little push" to cum XD

    As an extra point, I missed the narrated transitions between slow to fast in the same positions, like in the original Girlfriends 4 Ever. The changes in the pace were too sudden.

    But well, I'm happy with the result. I really liked it very much and in these days I'll probably mess around with the playlist to see how it works.

    Just an extra question: Would it be ok if I or another person create a thread with all the dialogues written down, and where we should create it? Some people have problems with understanding them, so at least Ammon and I thought of maybe try writing them down.



  • I just watched both DLC all the way through. This is going to be a really scathing review (far more than normal from me, to the point that I'm not sure you could even call it constructive criticism) so don't read it if you aren't prepared for that:

    ! DLC 1
    I didn't really like it. The transitions are really bad, the sound is off, and the cumshots look really fake, especially the cum itself - it's like wax or plastic or something, it even bounces up off of Sayako's skin at one point as if it were solid. The cum wasn't even coming out of the dick, there was clearly like a full cm or two space between the dick and the cum stream. The quality seems to have went way down. I don't even think it's 1080p, there's a lot of pixelation and jagged edges. The voice acting seems bad this time around too. The sound is way too loud and there's no sound control either, aside from on/off. The music is especially too loud. Some of the renders are pretty nice but it's too disconnected from the viewer. Not just third person but almost like you're actually just watching a video. The feel just seems really different from the original. Something is just really off about the whole thing. I watched it all the way through and it did nothing for me. Not even a little wet.
    ! Sayako's first autofellatio scene is pretty awkward looking with the way she just moved her upper torso and the way it all looked, though I do kinda like Tara's butt jiggling. The breast groping scene looked pretty fake and kinda gross. I didn't like the ball sucking either, and the balls themselves seem way too big and round. I was okay with Sayako's breasts with the original but definitely not this time around. They just look way too big and weird. It's the shape and the way they droop far more than the size itself.
    ! DLC 2
    Tara sucks dick
    This one was a lot better. The opening scenes are better and you actually get to choose who sucks the dick. I didn't like the couch being translucent. That was really weird and distracting. The dick started rippling towards the end of the Tara sucking scene which was really weird. I don't know what that stuff that was clinging to Tara's hand was either, because there wasn't really any saliva or anything on the area of Sayako's cock that Tara was sucking. So, that was pretty weird.
    ! The loops get pretty bad at some point, which is super noticeable. The first few times it starts happening the copyright flashes but later on when the camera pans between the back of Tara's head up to Sayako, it's really noticeable. It's really noticeable after that too. Super jerky camera movements.
    ! The more I saw the balls the more I thought they needed to come off, and Sayako's butthole really weirds me out. It just doesn't look right. Tara's doesn't really look right either. Tara's butt crack is way too spread apart too. Her butt cheeks should be squished together. I've said most of this stuff before.
    ! Getting rid of Sayako's voice actress was a super bad choice. I can't even tell them apart anymore. I knew I wasn't going to like that and I definitely didn't.
    ! Sayako seems super bad at eating pussy. As a guy maybe you can't tell, but as a girl… she just seems really really bad at it. I should have liked those scenes but I ended up having to skip each scene once it started to get too repetitive. Watch this: http://xhamster.com/movies/828860/nina_hartley_pro_licking_pussy.html
    ! Overall I think both DLC would have been way better without any visible cum whatsoever. Just sort of like how Tara was on top sucking and Sayako started cumming and it was really obvious. It's just ruined when she comes off it and the cum was so fake and bad.
    ! Sayako sucks dick
    This wouldn't actually play. It just looped back to the opening scene and asked to choose again. My guess is that somehow that's supposed to link to DLC 1 but it doesn't for some reason.

    @'at91':

    @'altroo':

    Is it just me or is the "monster shlong" fun stuff scene missing from DLC02?

    I couldn't find it either…

    Yeah, I didn't see anything like that.



  • @'altroo':

    Is it just me or is the "monster shlong" fun stuff scene missing from DLC02?

    I couldn't find it either…



  • Having issues purchasing DLC 2. Went through the process to buy it, however, picked my payment option (was going to use paypal) and just placed order…it shows the dlc 2 link in my account as "pending" but i don't even know how I could've purchased it, i didn't submit any payment information lol. It just rerouted me back to the store and said "there is nothing in your cart".


  • administrators

    @'starfirefeet':

    I do have to say there are some things on the business side that I really would like to see improvement on in the future. Some of them you've already identified, but some of them I don't think you have, and I would like to discuss some of those things in more detail soon. However, I want to keep this post positive and save that for the future. Now is the time for celebration!

    well I've made some tough decisions on how the next project will work, but I think it's for the better… and sure always interested in hearing about improving business work flows

    @'nen':

    My only technical complaint is there appear to be some bad animation hitches if you use slow mode on the slider (but not fast mode), but the speed slider has never really worked properly so w/e. I experienced one app crash while rapid-fire clicking through the scene selector but it didn't recur when I relaunched the app and went right back to doing the same thing.

    yes, I agree it should work better, I though it was a technical limitation with flash as per the explanation of a previous developer, but since seeing the vstroker implementation of their flash software with much smoother slow-fast mechanics…. but I'm thinking a big factor is frame rate at 24fps it's just much harder to slow down, I'm thinking we can afford to move at least to 30fps next time, 50fps would be ideal I think


  • administrators

    @'IBT':

    Someone is going to need to give instructions on how DLC 2 is supposed to be incorporated into the DLC 1 version after downloading the Mac client.

    I'm not on a mac, so if it's not obvious how the app should work, then I'll have to ask our flash dev who is on a mac. As I understand it, it's a native mac application. For a quick fix though that's sure to work copy the 'dlc2' folder located in 'G4E_DLC2.app\contents\resources' to the 'G4E\assets\dlc' folder.



  • Awesome work, Miro! :)
    Just bought the whole bundle to support you (despite I got already G4E since 2013 throught BMT store) ^^

    There is just one little thing who seemed weird to my eyes:
    In DLC2, the sound made by Sayako and Tara seems reversed in several scenes.
    When Tara (sucking) is on the left and Sayako (moaning) on the right, you hear sucking sound at the right and moaning sound on the left, which is a bit confusing. But as I said, this is a little detail ;)



  • Someone is going to need to give instructions on how DLC 2 is supposed to be incorporated into the DLC 1 version after downloading the Mac client.



  • Did a "play through" from the beginning on the Mac version (with swf files) and … it looks like there's a fair amount of continuity muck up happening in terms of getting scenes to sequence themselves correctly. Tara's voice over "announcing" the next series of loops has a fair amount of disconnect with the DLC 1 version. Stuff starts queuing "out of sequence" from the continuity that I remember from G4E.

    I also noticed that the first time Sayako "lets" her cock enter her mouth, just seconds after where the DLC 1 preview halted, there is a very noticeable clipping error involving Sayako's lip(s) not conforming correctly to the shape of her erect shaft. This tells me that Tara isn't the only one to suffer this malady (as I'd spotted in the DLC 2 trailer).

    From an artistic standpoint ... the thing I think I miss most in DLC 1 is being able to look Sayako and Tara in the eyes while they're "getting it on" together. A tremendous amount of the camera angles chosen somehow manage to minimize the ability to see the eyes of Sayako and Tara, thereby impairing the "connection" with the audience in being able to empathize with Sayako and Tara. This choice keeps everything very ... 3rd person ... and enforces a sense of ... distance ... from the characters, which precludes a feeling of "participation" on the part of the viewer. I think this is a missed opportunity. Fortunately, it would appear that a substantial portion of this was reserved for the DLC 2 (which I'm in progress of downloading as I make this post).

    Getting into the gritty nitpicking is going to have to wait for another day, when I have way more time at my disposal to do more of a Tear Down™ of the contents, both of the updated original and the DLCs themselves.

    Agreed that some of the loops no longer seem to mesh their beginning/end points together properly (enough) anymore, resulting in "jumps" when viewed. So far, Sayako Self Love out of the Fun Stuff section seems to have the most egregious examples of this phenomenon in my copy.

    Oh, and one other thing that I thought was odd. Volume.
    Apparently the sound volume on G4E was set higher than it was for DLC 1. I find myself needing to adjust the volume on my operating system after starting DLC 1 in order to match the volume level that was present in G4E.

    Oh and the first loop of Tara sucking Sayako's cock in DLC 1? For some reason the sound foley makes it seem as if Tara is sucking on a balloon, rather than a cock. Too much "lip fart" noise going on ... particularly since in G4E, Sayako's cock was just gliding down Tara's throat without all the "loud and sloppy" noise we hear from Tara here in DLC 1. What makes this particularly unhelpful is that the sound loop really isn't all that long, and the "lip fart" noises are pretty distinctive, meaning that they keep coming back around on the loop in pretty short order. The result is the audio equivalent of repeating a visual too frequently … the Bathroom Tile effect ... where you quickly learn to recognize the repeats for what they are (which is to say, repeats). I can handle the idea that Tara is sucking cock this time, unlike in G4E, so some amount of "lip smackin' good!" is to be expected in the audio. I'm just thinking that the amount you've got here, miro, happens to be Too Much Of A Good Thing™ and that the result is overdone.



  • Is it just me or is the "monster shlong" fun stuff scene missing from DLC02?


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