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  • 50SOG is Twilight fanfiction written by a woman on her Blackberry while in public transit that was published only because her husband had connections. Yeah, I think that about answers the question of whether or not it deserves to be a success. I've seen actual, proper porn with better plots.



  • Incidents like this one are another reason the scene is fucking nervous. If you talk to anyone who has experience in BDSM, this case was rape, pure and simple. The rich Pakistani kid didn't bother to follow basic protocol (there were no safe words, for example, very little talk about the risks), and then used the prosecution's ignorance of BDSM to make a case that this was consensual. Had prosecutors had the foresight to call a dominatrix or someone who runs a dungeon, their testimony would be enough to burn the defense's argument to the ground and send the little shit to jail. (Granted, the experience would probably cause him to join the Islamic State, but he was a lost cause anyway) But of course, given these people haven't bothered to figure out a successful way to prosecute of rapists, they can't be bothered…Disgusting, really.



  • The critics speak!

    "Who would have imagined that a movie about sex could be so boring?" - James Berardinelli, ReelViews

    "Isn't the stuff of bondage and discipline, sexual role play, silky blindfolds, and whips and floggers supposed to be, well, exciting?" - Steven Rea, Philadelphia Inquirer

    "The dashes of momentum are just a tease. It's hard to remember the last time this much sex was this tedious." - Chris Vognar, Dallas Morning News

    '"Fifty Shades of Grey" doesn't entertainingly cross the line of good taste so much as trip and fall on it." - Colin Covert, Minneapolis Star Tribune

    "About an hour in, it finally dawned on me that perhaps the movie was giving me insights into masochism after all. As the minutes slowly, painfully ticked by I came to accept my punishment." - Karen D'Souza, San Jose Mercury News

    "An unashamed and genially preposterous fairy tale, a kind of "Cinderella" with restraints, "50 Shades" is about as believable as "Jack and the Beanstalk," albeit considerably more kinky in intent." - Kenneth Turan, Los Angeles Times

    "I'm shocked - shocked, do you hear me?!? - that the film version of E.L. James' Fifty Shades of Grey is such a dull, decorous affair, about as erotic as an ad for Pottery Barn. Strictly intended for gluttons for punishment-by boredom." - Peter Travers, Rolling Stone

    "Maybe in future installments there will even be something that resembles a plot. For now, the entire movie is about as sexy as a root canal." - Rex Reed, New York Observer

    "The whole thing's about as transgressive as ordering a Cabernet Sauvignon with your fish." - Stephen Whitty, Newark Star-Ledger



  • @'miro':

    Some haters are so adamant around hiding their shame around sex they'll drag anyone along with them, whilst shouting abuse from the roof tops. As long as we suppress our sexual nature we'll be making ourselves crazy wanting to look at naked boobies as nature intended but having the feminist in our ear yelling 'don't look you rapist'. It's the 21st century version of the monk flogging himself, because of all the imaginary "sins" he's committed.

    It's sex guys! Sex is fun and we all do it, remember? :)

    …But a lot of peeps in the BDSM community ain't happy about this. The books and movie treat the fetish as superfluous. While they're thankful that stuff is opening people up, it's also bringing in idiots who don't know what they're doing and are going into this headlong. The BDSM types before all this are people who aren't ashamed of sex...but they're also respectful and courteous and patient about it, and they're not looking forward to dealing with people who just do this as a fad.

    BDSM is a little bit more complicated than straight fucking. The community made a series of rules and guidelines not to be negative Nancies, but to provide safety. Being in dom/sub play with bondage and all the other tools is like being on a construction zone: There's a huge risk of unintended injuries and/or death that can happen in a session. You have to be careful and follow rules so that the risk of injury is mitigated. Some people may be flat-out interested in learning this, but many aren't...and then end up getting hurt and giving the community a bad name because they're too arrogant to realize they fucked up.

    To give another example of complications, I had to talk this hot girl down from doing a gangbang recently. You may think, "why the hell did you do that? She should have some fun!" But, talking to her, it was very very clear her head wasn't in the right place. I dunno if she was mentally ill or manic depressive, but something was clearly up. Gangbangs are not something anyone can conduct easily, especially if you're a girl and are the one leading it. What if you're only sort of wanting to do this, and then suddenly in the middle of it, you want out or start freaking out? In the wrong place and wrong people, it can end terribly. Even with the right people, there's a lot of risk involved. You gotta make sure you're in a safe place when doing that sort of thing.

    It's all fun and games, as long as you don't run into this sort of thing like a freight train :D



  • @'miro':

    It's sex guys! Sex is fun and we all do it, remember? :)

    We aren't all fortunate enough to "do it" with Sayako and Tara.

    Oops, did I say that out loud? :s


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    I hardly know anything about the story or book, so I'll reserve judgement for once I've seen it. But I don't understand the haters. Why waste your time on something you hate when you could be doing something that makes you…. happy :)

    Twilight was badly written? So what? What, we haven't seen badly written or lame movie script before? I just recently watched Hercules (2014 version), Run Fat Boy Run and Zookeeper and the stories were so darn predictable and braindead I almost cried... and not out of happiness. Nobody gives a crap about those movies though. But as soon as sex enters the picture... all hell breaks lose. sigh

    Some haters are so adamant around hiding their shame around sex they'll drag anyone along with them, whilst shouting abuse from the roof tops. As long as we suppress our sexual nature we'll be making ourselves crazy wanting to look at naked boobies as nature intended but having the feminist in our ear yelling 'don't look you rapist'. It's the 21st century version of the monk flogging himself, because of all the imaginary "sins" he's committed.

    It's sex guys! Sex is fun and we all do it, remember? :)



  • @'aguinness':

    I dunno if you guys have been paying attention, but the two leads HATE each other. The press tour has been a trainwreck. It's actually rather fun to watch.

    Also, I would like to remind everyone (which I did with my first column, ahem), that this was originally a Twilight fanfic. I repeat, this was a Twilight fanfic.

    Like, it's a trashy Mary Sue ero remake of what is already a very poor romance novel. You can't scrape any more dregs from the bottom of that barrel.

    I should also note that the story is very much a stereotypical BDSM pulp take: Dude doms because he was abused by a dominatrix who broke the code (you do NOT bring a minor into that world, for that is abuse), lady subs because she wants to "fix" him. We go through three books, it ends with them being a happy family (with children!). Yes, I spoiled it because you do not deserve to go through that mess unless you take it like "The Room."

    But The Room was good in a bad way.



  • Best review I've seen for it so far in the UK has given it 3/5, and that's from a paper that has been running 'exclusive' features on it all week.
    Certainly says something when a publication that has been paid to promote the film has only called it average.

    It's probably going to do well over the valentines weekend, but I can see ticket sales quickly plummeting.



  • Not having lived in the States for years, and therefore not knowing what the culture is like - I'm going to have to predict flop.

    It's interesting that some of the feminists are coming out of the woodwork and blasting the movie and the book for some reason, while other feminists are saying, "It's only fiction, therefore it isn't real." Funny how that works - the 'Gor' series [whatever you think of that series really is not the point] was vilified by the feminists as well and no one defended John Norman [John Lange]. 'The Story of O' is basically the same as '50 Shades', as are a few other classic erotic novels but those are still classified as porn.

    I read a few pages of '50 Shades' and I could swear that she ripped it off of 'The Story of O' but I guess that's another thread.

    Flop, flop, flop and soon to be heading for the bargain section of Netflix or whatever site that will take it.



  • Floppy and lifeless like the corpse this movie's riding to try and get money. Twilight is gone and so are all the wanna be's except this fanfic hold out that has as much to do with BDSM as Transformers had physics.



  • I dunno if you guys have been paying attention, but the two leads HATE each other. The press tour has been a trainwreck. It's actually rather fun to watch.

    Also, I would like to remind everyone (which I did with my first column, ahem), that this was originally a Twilight fanfic. I repeat, this was a Twilight fanfic.

    Like, it's a trashy Mary Sue ero remake of what is already a very poor romance novel. You can't scrape any more dregs from the bottom of that barrel.

    I should also note that the story is very much a stereotypical BDSM pulp take: Dude doms because he was abused by a dominatrix who broke the code (you do NOT bring a minor into that world, for that is abuse), lady subs because she wants to "fix" him. We go through three books, it ends with them being a happy family (with children!). Yes, I spoiled it because you do not deserve to go through that mess unless you take it like "The Room."



  • It'll be very 'meh' as most film adaptations are for another form of media.



  • The trouble with the book-to-film translation of chick-porn is that with the book, every reader can imagine themselves as the chick. That's why the books sell so many copies. When it hits the screen, it's a chick they can't identify with, for whatever reason (too fat, too skinny, too tall, too short, too young, too old, etc etc etc).

    The guy on screen may also not be the guy they envision, so while the book made them wet, the movie will have the opposite effect, and will come across as some Skinemax crap.

    I predict flop.

    And despite the popularity of BDSM in private practice, it simply will not ever be "mainstream" in movies. Participants will always come across as being freaks with mental/emotional/moral issues, and any attempt to popularize or sanitize it will be met by Puritanical protests. Talk show hosts will take the opportunity to boost their ratings by having both sides on the show, and will end up with the extremists on both ends of the spectrum - the fanatical religious right and the absolute ass-clowns who claim to represent the "average" participant, simply because those shows thrive on sensationalism. They want the freaks from both camps because if it comes down to physical blows, the average slack-jaw who watches those shows will phone a friend to tune in, and then the late-night replays air for a week or more.

    BDSM is different for each person, and committing one person's view of it to film does a disservice to the viewer and the people who practice it, no matter how tame or how extreme they go into it.



  • i hate it already - the rich powerful submiting the girl is not a tale i like to hear - i do not find it empowering (why would the guy need be rich, powerfull ? why not a doubtfull next door boy discovering sex with next door girl ?)
    i hate the fact that so many follow the trend & seem to identify

    bah i'm too drunk to make sense; be back when sober.


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