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My basic opinion is if I find it sexy or beautiful, whatever it happens to be, then its porn (some of my "sexy time" is devoted to L'oreal commericals, or any commercial with Doutzen Kroes or Emily Didianto)
But I'll delve into the question deeper
99% of real porn bores me, its really just turned into a dehumanizing meat grinder industry, once in a while a true porn star comes along and makes porn how it should be, but most of the time its just a repetitive montage of the same acts and positions, I also really don't like to see a girl pushed beyond her "sexual comfort zone", don't get me wrong if a particular pornstar enjoys rough sex and nasty treatment I'm fine with that, but if she doesn't then don't force her, it looks ugly and unattractive
If I discover a pornstar who is attractive to me (I'm particularly attracted to pretty faces and blue or green eyes) and if she possesses a moderate level of sexual skill and enthusiam, the I'll watch her entire career if given the chance, the names Meggan Mallone, Lanny Barbie, Veronica deSouza and Jenna Haze come to mind
I'm probably in the minority of people on this forum who actually can't watch 2d hentai, as much as I love a lot of the themes expressed in the genre (sex with monsters, huge penetrations etc.) I just don't like the drawing style of all the artists involved: 3 ovals, 4 circles and a triangle with a side missing does not look like a face!!!!!!, I've watched many Anime movies through the years and enjoyed them, and even found some of the characters moderately attractive, but my interest goes no further than that, If a more western drawing style was used then I'd probably become a consumer,
Also one thing about hentai that infuriates me immensely…..ITS ALL CENSORED!!!!, whats the point of that!?!?!
I understand that in some countires the are restrictions which require the mosaic, but what about the rest of us?!?!?! how can anyone enjoy censored pornography unless you are into self-masohchism, how would DaVinci have felt if someone painted a beard and moustache on the Mona Lisa?!?!?! Or I went into the Cistine Chapel and painted over Michelangelos nipples!?!?!?Now onto 3DX
Like real porn the vast majoirty of it passes me by, but the 3dx I like, I really, really like, I get more excited about the 1% of 3DX that I enjoy than the 1% real porn that I enjoy.
I guess for me porn boils down to looking for perfection, the perfect girl performing any sexual act to perfection and having that perfection captured perfectly, perfect angles, perfect lighting etc., this reason for me is the reason why I like the world of 3DX and am very excited about watching it develop, because it potentially offers to show me what I long to see......perfect porn
I think as technology advances 3dx will eventually take a foothold in the pornographic industry, taking the niche now occupied by 2d drawn hentai, If the technology (and will to use it) advance to the point where photo-realistic models can be realistically animated indulging in all sorts of sexual acts, both generic and bizzarre or perverse then there is no reason to doubt that it will become a dominant force in erotic entertainment
But I honestly think that time is a long, long way from any of us, I know people keep saying about "computer power doubles every 18 months", that may be true but if you look at any current hollywood CGI blockbuster created with supercomputers and multi-million budgets, can you honestly say any of that looks "real"?
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First with P = I enjoy seeing the human form, its curvature, angles, and what structures its capable of, Even with photography, or art, its something to behold.
However with 3DX, artists are capable of tweaking every segment of their characters to their hearts desire. Something any artist or photographer wishes they could, instead of finding a sliver of a moment to capture it. Perhaps 3DX is the next "generation" for artists to share their darkest dreams or inspire other talents to be born.
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40 yrs or so ago, 2D animators figured out that there is no use in creating anything RL could.
echoed by many of the above responses, 3D animation is no different.
however, 3D, as opposed to traditional hentai, is limited by technology. Most of the models/tools available to starving artists can only be pushed to a certain limit before they look hideous, whereas traditional 2D is limited only by the imagination and the skill of the artist.if and when 3D animation will be limited only by imagination, hentai and real porn will forever live in its shadow.
…as for preferences, RL porn. 3Dx lacks so much that it's not even worth listing it.
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What I like about virtual porn in general, be it hentai or 3D, is the fact that it can be WAY more aesthetic and clean.
In virtual porn everything is spot on, if the artist is skilled. Everything works the way he wants it to work. Real porn on the other hand usually is pretty filthy. Just looking at the grimaces the actors make from time to time either makes you laugh or it's just a major turn off. Neither of those things should happen. Not to mention mainstream porn is so filthy and hardcore. Spitting into each others mouth, gagging and coughing, spitting around in general, crimsoning faces and cumshots in the eyes or hair. And let us not forget deformed fake breasts where you can see the implants showing through the skin. Everything is just so unaesthetic!
Sure, there is erotic softcore porn and it's pleasant to watch but there is no action. Because it's softcore. If you are going hardcore with real porn it's impossible to keep the aesthetic level high. Because it's humans you are working with and human bodies aren't always aesthetic. With a skilled artist however the work will be aesthetic almost all the time, even while going very hardcore.
My favorite example for very aesthetic, yet extremely hardcore hentai is Udon-Ya and his later Monhan No Ero Hon works (it's classic hentai, not 3D). They are beautiful but there is so much action and scenes that would look downright disgusting in real life look very erotic.
Real porn has it's limits. Not only set by the director and the guys making up the "scenario" but also set by the actors. Virtual porn on the other hand only has one limit: the skills of the artist. Talent shows. And that's why there are things virtual porn can achieve, that real porn never will.
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omg im i the only fews that prefer real porn over 3dx?
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i voted for porn, LOL! and that's for live porn…
well, first of all (for me), it really depends on the actress (in live porn) or the character (in hentai/3DX)..
it's always the character which attracts my attention...for me 3DX and hentai are special in their own way coz they are limitless, they can cater anything that may run in our imagination, whatever theme it may have..
mythical, offensive, supernatural, anything goes coz there are no real persons involved..
basically it has no boundaries.. i myself, work on my hentai comic series freely - not thinking about laws or customs or taboos..
and that's the good thing about such genre - they can feed our extraordinary fantasies...but!
i like real girls more, simply because they are tangible or easier to relate with..
unlike in hentai/3DX wherein when you try to put yourself in such scene there's this feeling or thought that you could never connect..
plus humans are on the realistic level - the movements, muscles, body structure, the bouncing of goodies, emotions.. the presentation is fluid coz they are natural..
well of course 2D could never reach that certain level, but for 3D i think it still has a lot more to improve in order to reach such level of realism...
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@'CyCaDeLiC':
Well, there are lucky exceptions, but in general it's close to how it is.
that image is pretty spot on, I mean we have to separate actual sex from porn, nothing can replace real sex, but when it comes to watching porn or following some actress or movie star, it's exactly what that image says
@'monstermax20':
I mean, 3DX has almost limitless potential (basically the author/s imagination) but we're just seeing the first steps. I alwas like to think about the state of 3DX in 3 or 5 years… and boy I can tell you that looks very bright indeed.
I agree what you see with big Hollywood movies, like avatar or even Wall-E or Beowolf or similar games like Battlefield 3 are pre-cursors to what we'll see with 3DX in hopefully less than 10 years, and that ought to be something to look forward to
@'hzr':
I dont know why I got into the 3d stuff, but what sets it apart from regular porn is the unlimited possibilities and in my case, you can see an ongoing improvement for the quality of it. I mean yeah, porn movie image quality has improved too over the years, but in 3dx you can see the evolution almost year by year, month by month.
right there are new trends in porn like the rough sex thing atm and tube sites, etc… but in the long terms its going to be the old stuff re-hashed there's just a limit to what can be done with real actors, where's in 3DX the possibilities will continuously expand along with the technology and imagination! ... in other words there are no limits, things will be possible that we haven't even though of yet... and once 3DX reaches a certain tipping point, where it becomes main stream enough to stand on it's own two feet as an industry, it'll have budget to rival movie studios in quality and yeah then it's game over porn!! ... nah of course porn will always be the big mama, but 3DX will stand along side it nicely
@'hzr':
Hopefully I can make some people happy with the stuff that I post around the net. If thats the case then I at least did something worthwhile
confirmed, a smile and other nice things
@'edwards21':
But that image miro put up is absolutely correct, as far as what's on the screen is concerned, the only real differences are the amount of work put into it.
actually CyCaDeLiC put up that image
good point actually, with regards to the amount of work, cause there's a lot involved with 3DX, but there are 3 thing to alleviate the issue, more artists and better technology and hopefully more collaborations in general or artists working in teams, kind of like what @oz is doing
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I go between a lot of different subject matter. 3DX, porn, hentai (Sexy Beach 3 ftw), even sites like literotica. A lot of it is based on my mood. But that image miro put up is absolutely correct, as far as what's on the screen is concerned, the only real differences are the amount of work put into it.
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@'CyCaDeLiC':
@'miro':
For most ppl 99% of the time we'll never actually get to meet the porn star/ movie star, let alone insert our wieners into them, etc to us they're are just pixels on the screen just like our 3D chars…. in fact if we ever go down that virtual reality path again in the future, we may even replace RL altogether and go hang out in RL 2.0 instead.
Well, there are lucky exceptions, but in general it's close to how it is.
True on every single level, well played good sir.
Now for my own answer:
I came to the realization that every day that goes by, I feel less and less atracted to porn. Maybe it's because of what miro and a lot of other people said: unrealistic, boring, staged, and the list goes on…
Now, regarding 3DX I think the industry has done an amazing job at evolving and updating, but I still think it's not quite there yet. Not every artists has nailed down animations, or facial expresions (one of the most difficult things to do, I know) but I think it's going the right way.
I mean, 3DX has almost limitless potential (basically the author/s imagination) but we're just seeing the first steps. I alwas like to think about the state of 3DX in 3 or 5 years... and boy I can tell you that looks very bright indeed.
For now I indulge myself with Hentai and good 3DX works from renowned artists/circles and yes, the ocasional porn whatever just for laughs & giggles.
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@'CyCaDeLiC':
Well, there are lucky exceptions, but in general it's close to how it is.
that image right there is pure undiluted truth, can't agree more.
i'm going to use that whenever someone says something bad about drawn porn.
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I like both. Like someone mentioned before, the real thing is still the best though.
I dont know why I got into the 3d stuff, but what sets it apart from regular porn is the unlimited possibilities and in my case, you can see an ongoing improvement for the quality of it. I mean yeah, porn movie image quality has improved too over the years, but in 3dx you can see the evolution almost year by year, month by month.
There are still mostly artists who are using older render engines or amateurs and beginners who maybe just use straight out of the box poser/daz studio and their image quality is usually very low, but even those guys can produce some great results if they strike your taste of kink
A few years ago, I was happy when the girls had some nice curves and some details to them, maybe some nice looking shading and a bit more than a basic scene background. Today you get quite a few comics and random images with breathtaking quality. Just a short gaze over the featured artists here should make that clear.
I did not stop at just looking at 3dx. With the beginning of 2011 I started out to create my own images, first in Carrara but I tried out almost all the render engines that are available and ended up with Cinema4D and V-Ray. Most comfortable workflow and handling…
Hopefully I can make some people happy with the stuff that I post around the net. If thats the case then I at least did something worthwhile
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I'd take 3DX over real porn any day, for the same reason I like hentai. You can get far sexier results, and things that can't happen in real life. Plus porn has awful aspects, like seeing implant scars. Way to make you go from hot to ewwwww in no time flat.
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@'miro':
For most ppl 99% of the time we'll never actually get to meet the porn star/ movie star, let alone insert our wieners into them, etc to us they're are just pixels on the screen just like our 3D chars…. in fact if we ever go down that virtual reality path again in the future, we may even replace RL altogether and go hang out in RL 2.0 instead.
Well, there are lucky exceptions, but in general it's close to how it is.
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@'Arkadio':
with porn the only thing I see/hear is a bunch of fake sounding moans and some really repetitive dirty talking,
somewhat odd to say this about real porn, but it's true for the most part you know it's staged and it feels staged, so it's comes across as bad acting, like they're going through the motions, the good stuff is when you can tell they're really into it.. and with the more realistic amateur stuff the girls aren't often hot enough
@'Arkadio':
And i think 3DX will definitely evolve. With the enhanced reality and virtual reality technologies going around, give it 3 to 5 years and you could get some sexeh time with 3DX models like Ayako, inside the screen!!
it'll prob take more time (hopefully not) but yeah virtual reality is another thing that's exclusive to 3DX and huge!
@'Katzekage':
but to get it clear i don´t watch hentai only for things that are impossible in RL. I realy like normal Anime/Manga as well. You could say i´m an Otaku (europ version without all the negativ aspects).
of course I like the impossible/ extreme stuff 3DX offers, it's definitely the area where it excels currently, but I think 3DX can do more for regular 'positions' as well, like make them more intense by making the characters totally inhibited and another thing is camera angles, once the quality of the assets reaches a good level, we'll be able to achieve close-ups and angles you can't get with normal filming
@'CyCaDeLiC':
On the other side, hentai/3DX offers me willing sexually-human-like animals together with good looking girls that will enjoy it most of the time, even if they mostly don't say so at first. Even better: no one gets harmed, flexible reality ftw!
I'm not into bestiality personally (don't mind human like monsters though) but you sure point out the beauty of 3DX. We all have our fantasies, your imagination is much bigger than real life. But we like to see the action not just think of it, so this is where 3DX is key. It makes these fantasies real. And often they are impossible to do in real life but can't look realistic enough in any other medium. And the more realistic 3DX becomes the more it'll catch on with regular porn users as well, I think.
@'Nakamura':
On the Opposite, sure you need the Know-How to turn your Fantasy into a Picture, a Movie or something else, and the Skill too (Not that i forget the most important Thing :P).
You don't have to, it's like enjoying a good movie. You don't have to make movies to enjoy them. Of course if you interested enough you should, because right now I think there are few fantasies which still remain unexplored because there's no artists that may have an interest in them. I personally enjoy watching and making 3DX in equal measure
@'ctdemonet':
I really like certain positions in sex and it is sometimes difficult to find those positions in hentai/3DX but regular porn does a great job of it. I am a fan of a number of porn stars that I keep up with their works regularly.
I agree with this point, if porn is done with a bit of love and intent and the 2 lose themselves in the act the positions, angles and intensity they can create on screen is not currently matched in 3DX, even Umemaro. 3DX has to pull impossible stunts right now to be better. BUT I don't think we're far away from 3DX looking real and then porn better watch out
As with knowing the girl is real and somewhere out there. I get that and it's a big plus but I think again as the 3DX girls become more tangible, realistic but also are given characters through a back story etc those lines will easily be blurred and crossed even. 3DX will be hotter, have more interesting personalities and an unstoppable need for sex
People falling in love with their fav. 3D chars - I can see it. For most ppl 99% of the time we'll never actually get to meet the porn star/ movie star, let alone insert our wieners into them, etc to us they're are just pixels on the screen just like our 3D chars…. in fact if we ever go down that virtual reality path again in the future, we may even replace RL altogether and go hang out in RL 2.0 instead.
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They're equally good on my end. While 3DX is good, there's some qualities of porn that I like that causes me to keep coming back to it.
Now, if there was the choice of hentai, then that would be the winner of any situation.
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Porn is to boooring
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Alright long answer incoming:
I thoroughly enjoy all types of sexual art/work, but it really depends what kind of mood I am in.
I have plenty of real porn and enjoy it. No matter how much I love my 3DX/Hentai, real women are still real. They exist somewhere in the world, and to me knowing someone that beautiful or with that kind of a body is a huge turn on. Even in amateur porn hotties like "in college" or off the street is such a huge turnon just the female body.
I really like certain positions in sex and it is sometimes difficult to find those positions in hentai/3DX but regular porn does a great job of it. I am a fan of a number of porn stars that I keep up with their works regularly.
It basically boils down to a real woman is something tangible and her body is reacting to what is being done to her and I can see this and observe this in real timeBut on the other side of the coin, 3d and hentai sex has a special place in my heart. Nothing will replace those unnaturally ginormous boobs, all the other crazy fetishes and that FUTANARI. I cannot comprehend why a female with a penis is sexually attractive, but my god! The truly wonderful thing about animation like this is because you can create scenarios or situations that would otherwise be impossible in real life. The element of a plot and compelling story can have such a higher weight on the overall work and really make a connection with the reader.
As far as animated works in this category, those are really the clincher for me. Works like Sircus will live in my mind forever. For example, miro's works were animated I would probably give up real porn forever –- that's just how much I love these models and their potential. They hold like my ideal sexual desires in a woman. It's hard to find that truly sweet spot for meIn the end, my go to is still real porn. That being said, if you 3DX lovers have some things you think real porn will never reach, time for you to share and prove me wrong
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Interesting question. First of all, I think the best thing you have to do is mix the two (or three if you count Hentai and 3DX as two different things) because if you get in one only thing eventually you will get bored.
When I started seeing porn I only know regular porn, it was good first but then was boring since it's always the same, no argument, same positions, same stupid lines, almost the 90% of the porn its the same thing. Then I discover Hentai and 3DX. As other say, these are great because you can see other aspects and fetiches than regular porn and even on real life you can't see or experiment. Also usually they come with some plot that makes em more fun to watch. The artist of the Hentai or 3DX could make a horrible scene in real life, looks awesome in paper (or image or animation lol). For example. I'm not a fan of tentacle but have you ever see Japanese attempt to reproduce tentacles in real porn?, its horrible, it's hilarous… Ahegao fetish its another thing (the rolled eyes of pleasure thing) in real porn looks weird, its like seeing the girl being killed or something. And I really like Ahegao especially Kagami style (the artist behind Taimanin Asagi Series).
So thats my point of view, sometimes regular porn is good, other 3DX is needed but if I have to say lately I'm seeing more 3DX with Hentai. Maybe the 80% of the time I search for porn it's for 3DX and Hentai. So I'm gonna vote in the poll for 3DX :D.
Where's is going 3DX?. I don't exactly know but I can say it's going by a good way. I think it will take time but more soon than later it's gonna be recognize at the level of regular porn for other people. For me it's already at that level and even higher. The only thing I expect to see it's a full animated movie of my 2 3DX goddesses: Lara Croft (yeah!) and Ayako. So Miro... the ball is in your court LOL. Also now that I'm playing DC Universe Online Wonder Woman and Power Girl 3D? yummy. hahaha.
