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  • Thanks for being forthcoming so I don't have to spend a whole lot of time searching. :)

    First impressions as a prospective moderator:

    This needs to "stop or be stopped", so it doesn't deteriorate. I'm not going to dissect it down to little pieces yet, but I do generally see faults on both sides in terms of inappropriateness of response (regardless of merit in arguments). I bear in mind a negative might cause some resentment and will take that into consideration. Definitely will need to look again later for thoroughness sake.

    Regardless my opinions on the matter itself (keepin' them to myself for now TBH) I seriously got some facepalm laughs out of it. I'm not sure if it's because of the arguments themselves, how serious it is getting, or the fact they keep going on and on.

    Miro and Supro have been extraordinarily sporting and easygoing as admin because in some "PG-13" forums, their admin/owners would drop the boat anchors by now and the tone would change, if you catch my drift. Fred even tried to lighten the tone a bit, which bodes well I think.

    Isn't this supposed to be a friendly "live and let live" forum afterall?



  • You call repping back two people (max of -5, one time only) that gave me a fuckload of down rep doing the same thing? I only even did that within the past 2 or 3 days because I finally got fed up with it and figured they needed to see how it felt. I don't even think I used the rep system until then, so don't even. -_-



  • @'Tiffany':

    deshwitat has downvoted me several times with pretty snarky comments on the neg rep but none of the rep has links to any posts, "again with the ball-less shit, knock if off", "Serious persecution complex going on here", etc.

    As far as I can tell it's mostly immature little shits obsessed with balls that have downvoted me to oblivion.

    I get why you're upset about the downrepping, but please try not to play victim when you started doing the same thing.

    Anyway, we're turning off the reputation system for now. We'll bring them back in a few months when everyone cools off.



  • @'Tiffany':

    "Serious persecution complex going on here"

    Which in Tiffany's case is clearly justified on the merits of available evidence. Just one more data point that makes obvious that the Reputation System serves little useful purpose in a positive direction, while aiding and abetting trolls in enforcing their grudges.

    The sad thing is, there's probably no way to "fix" this in a way that keeps the Reputation System. I say that because any "rules" that can be designed to protect against trolling downvotes could be "gamed" relatively easily by a cabal of user accounts set up expressly for that purpose.

    I see minimal upside and an unfortunate downside to the system. Getting rid of it hurts the trolls more than it does the community at large … which in most places would be considered a net positive result.



  • Negative:
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=33262#pid33262
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=33262#pid33262
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=33122#pid33122
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32877#pid32877
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32877#pid32877
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32877#pid32877
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32877#pid32877
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32824#pid32824
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32824#pid32824
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32736#pid32736
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32726#pid32726
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32714#pid32714
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32471#pid32471
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32471#pid32471
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32467#pid32467
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32385#pid32385
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32389#pid32389
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32346#pid32346
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32300#pid32300
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32316#pid32316
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32287#pid32287
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32252#pid32252
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32246#pid32246
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32235#pid32235
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32188#pid32188
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32157#pid32157

    deshwitat has downvoted me several times with pretty snarky comments on the neg rep but none of the rep has links to any posts, "again with the ball-less shit, knock if off", "Serious persecution complex going on here", etc.

    As far as I can tell it's mostly immature little shits obsessed with balls that have downvoted me to oblivion.

    Positive:
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=28624#pid28624
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32877#pid32877
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32824#pid32824
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32736#pid32736
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=32216#pid32216
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=29734#pid29734
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=25336#pid25336
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=27420#pid27420
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=25336#pid25336
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=23982#pid23982
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=15789#pid15789
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=15374#pid15374
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=13497#pid13497
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=12473#pid12473
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=11603#pid11603
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=11314#pid11314
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=3551#pid3551
    http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=1588#pid1588

    This asshole doesn't exactly help…



  • Suppose I could set aside time reading all the 100 or so pages of the aforementioned thread that seems to keep coming up. I don't know who voted what or where so it'd be a guess. An adult can handle living amongst people s/he disagrees with.

    I hesitate also in upvoting because things can all be very fickle without intending it to be. I don't like undue post or user promotion.

    I would say this system isn't totally worthless but as I pointed out earlier it may need guidelines or to employ some mechanism aimed at discouraging petty uses of it. Or just start reviewing every uncommented downvote and begin to interview some of these people (I have no idea who) that don't seem to justify it too well. If you cannot justify it, then it's only fair that it's left to best interpretations because, obviously, a comment would be very telling.

    For example:
    –If a post is helpful, displays neutrality in being objective, has a constructive criticism, or perhaps has some good irony or humor, upvote.
    --If a post attempts to do something but fails, its body does not follow its point, or it says a lot without effectively making its point/being convincing; yet seems to be intended for better, neutral vote.
    --If a post is unreasonable, insulting, rude, libelous, slanderous, illegal, or just plain uncalled for, downvote.

    Posts may only be voted on once per user. Any user may only vote once every 3 hours.
    A user with a warning level over 50% may only vote once every 24 hours. A user whose warning level has surpassed 75% and is not tempbanned or permabanned may only vote for a post once a week.

    Just my suggestion to help get a handle on this...



  • @'IBT':

    @'Morvoni':

    On the other hand I've watched Tiffany's rep go from like +11 to -12. And I think it's pretty ridiculous.

    Tiffany isn't the only one who has attracted a grudge of this kind. It would appear that techtalk has made it his/her/its mission to downgrade every post I make in the G4E DLC thread. Why? Occam's Razor points towards trolling at this point pretty decisively.

    The reputation system has outlived its usefulness. Might as well retire it.

    …More like your posts consist of nitpicking every detail of the DLC in essay form, all in the name of some self-deluded belief in "quality products" of which you are the sole arbiter, along with being all around snobby about it and using incredibly ostentatious language to describe your "ideal" scenarios. And that is the bulk of your posts, hands down. That you're self-centered enough to point to Occam's Razor proves the point.

    Granted, techtalk has been acting rather obnoxious in his use of the reputation system, and it's more annoying that we don't have a "Report User" function independent of posts. But in your case, I can't say I didn't see that coming. Nothing breeds trolling more than pretension.



  • @'Morvoni':

    On the other hand I've watched Tiffany's rep go from like +11 to -12. And I think it's pretty ridiculous.

    Tiffany isn't the only one who has attracted a grudge of this kind. It would appear that techtalk has made it his/her/its mission to downgrade every post I make in the G4E DLC thread. Why? Occam's Razor points towards trolling at this point pretty decisively.

    The reputation system has outlived its usefulness. Might as well retire it.



  • Personally, I don't like the system as is…plain and simple. I've not up or down voted anyone in the time I've been here because I feel that as long as you aren't being disruptive, you reputation should remain neutral/good. For the few months I've been able to post, I've gained in reputation, but I don't really feel it means much. I'm one of those people who could care less if I gain or lose reputation based on popularity...since that's what it appears to mean.

    On the other hand I've watched Tiffany's rep go from like +11 to -12. And I think it's pretty ridiculous. Is her negative reputation supposed to mean she needs to behave differently? I almost never agree with anything Tiffany has to say, but I still want her to be herself. Her opinions need to be heard.

    If you asked me what Tiffany's -12 reputation means, I would say I don't have any idea. I may not agree with her, but she's definitely not a troll. I really can't see how or why she dropped from +11 to -12 when her behavior has been pretty consistent. I will say that I feel a few things she said were inconsiderate during the debate I had with her...but that's about all I can say about her that's negative.

    Being disruptive, trolling, disrespectful, derailing topics, etc...these are the things that should make a person lose reputation. If you aren't regularly doing these things, I don't think you should lose reputation.

    Right now it appears to just be a popularity meter and that's nonsense. That means the same popularity nonsense that you see in high school has the potential to be seen here.

    My conclusion is that I don't feel the reputation meter means what it is supposed to mean, and is therefore useless. If it is going to continue to be used, it needs an overhaul or there need to be guidelines members must follow or face consequences for abusing the system.



  • @'EctoRider':

    a0) Did you use the forum's reputation system (to add positive or negative reputation points to users), already?

    I have.

    @'EctoRider':

    a1) If yes, how frequently do you use it?

    Very rarely.

    @'EctoRider':

    a2) …, do you enter comments when you assign those points?

    Usually.

    @'EctoRider':

    a3) If applicable: When you assigned a positive/negative reputation point, what did you want to express? And what did you expect the person that got this positive/negative point to do?

    Primarily reinforcement of either a job well done or a choice made poorly received. For the most part though, I expect the reputation change to be ignored, simply because you have to specifically pay attention to it just in order to notice it at all. It's something that is very easy to just forget about and pay no attention to whatsoever.

    @'EctoRider':

    b1) How do you react when you notice someone assigned a positive reputation point to you?

    Go check to see if what they've said to see if there is any greater insight to be learned.

    @'EctoRider':

    b2) How do you react when you notice someone assigned a negative reputation point to you?

    Go check to see if they have anything useful to say. The odds of trolling with no comment have dramatically increased of late, and most of the negative awards are now being made without reasons (seemingly for spite). Gets worse when someone decides they want to "make an example" of you and they just start down voting anything and everything you do without comment simply because they can and there's "no cost" to them for doing so.

    @'EctoRider':

    c) Last, but not least: In your opinion, what are the pros of this system? What are the cons? The biggest chances, the biggest risks?

    Pros are few and far between. That's because Past Performance Does Not Indicate Future Results. The "value added" by the reputation system is pitiful and meager at best, since it's essentially a Public Message rather than a Private Message system.

    Cons are plentiful and increase in number with the larger the community grows due to the temptation of initiating/engaging in pissing contests.

    The biggest risk is that the system can be "abused" by members with a grudge, and there is essentially no "penalty" (or cost) for doing so. This then becomes a vector for trolling in ways that serve no one but the obnoxious. Empowering trolls and making their lives/jobs easier at the expense of everyone else rarely ends well.



  • Most people here get rep points for

    1. Making a sexy pic/vid that someone likes
    2. Writing something funny in a post
    3. Helping someone out
    4. Defending someone else
    5. Saying something more intelligent than the average poster.

    The above categories are how I got mine, and usually why I give them to others.



  • Though I hope for more statements on the reputation system, there is something interesting, I observe in the meantime: While, as said, I use it mostly for posts I consider "remarkable", other users use it much more frequently. When I see certain posts (e.g. http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2720&pid=33089#pid33089 ) marked with reputation points, I don't understand the patterns and reasons yet; I just assume that the individual motivations may simply be "I like/dislike that post!". Since I did not find any reputation guidelines, I can't say that this is forbidden, nor do I demand a reason from anyone submitting these points. On the same hand, I get a moment of unease. Maybe I hoped for more predictability or simply long for more understanding.

    I can just ask you, valued fellow user(s), to help me getting some more insight by answering some questions and/or debate on that matter.



  • Though I hope for more statements on the reputation system there is something interesting, I observe in the meantime: While I, as said, use it pretty sparingly mostly for posts I consider "remarkable", other users use it much more frequently. When I see certain posts (e.g. http://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2720&pid=33089#pid33089 ) marked with reputation points, I don't understand the patterns and reasons yet; I just assume that the individual motivations may simply be "I like/dislike that post!"



  • @'fredfred5150':

    Based on my experience…its like becoming a Green Lantern, you have to be chosen :D

    Very well. :)

    @'EctoRider':

    @~ArgonCyanide777: Why don't you just PM to miro, Supro and/or the other admins? I wouldn't object one additional person keeping an eye at the forums.

    Edit 2014-06-22 17:11 UTC: OK, fredfred already answered. Did not notice that, previously.

    Glad for a vote of confidence. ;)

    @'Supro':

    @'~ArgonCyanide777':

    If I may be so bold: What would it take to be a moderator, here?

    Currently, we have 5 active moderators (2 being admins) for the board. And majority of the people visit the DLC thread, so we have more than often at this time. In the future, we'll definitely be looking to add more mods.

    Consider this my submission of interest. PM me, or email. Thank you for your consideration.



  • @'Tiffany':

    Someone downvotes every post I make so I can't say that I care for it too much. There should be some kind of limit… it's too easily abusable right now. It doesn't mean anything but that doesn't mean someone wants to see a red negative number by their name just because someone decided to be a rep troll.

    edit: And just to throw it out there... I vote we remove it. This is getting ridiculous.

    @'fredfred5150':

    I'm very disappointed in a few peoples behaviour recently, I'm watching a few of you very closely and if it continues the least you can expect is a "warning level" increase.

    Consider this a Moderator warning.

    You talking about me?



  • @'~ArgonCyanide777':

    If I may be so bold: What would it take to be a moderator, here?

    Currently, we have 5 active moderators (2 being admins) for the board. And majority of the people visit the DLC thread, so we have more than often at this time. In the future, we'll definitely be looking to add more mods.



  • @~ArgonCyanide777: Why don't you just PM to miro, Supro and/or the other admins? I wouldn't object one additional person keeping an eye at the forums.

    Edit 2014-06-22 17:11 UTC: OK, fredfred already answered. Did not notice that, previously.



  • @'~ArgonCyanide777':

    What would it take to be a moderator, here?

    Based on my experience…its like becoming a Green Lantern, you have to be chosen :D



  • I had been wondering at making a forum with this feature, actually. Now I see either it must have limitations or be relegated to not being a primary function as it could negatively impact users in an unfair way. As an incremental step maybe a comment could be required before a point rating submission was accepted again within a given period of time (space it out over 2 weeks). That way ratings simply for inflation or defamation could be limited and nipped in the bud before they get to being problematic. Just a suggestion from the view of "if I was a mod".

    If I may be so bold: What would it take to be a moderator, here? Other than my machine being unhappy and on the edge of going out at anytime, I could perhaps dedicate part of my schedule in the evenings to moderation. I feel at home here, and would not like to see it become a war zone.


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