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  • @'Fred5150':

    well derp I agree as I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on this forum who doesnt have a 2d hentai collection :D

    I never liked umemaro either, despite his god-like status among 3d fans

    horses for courses I guess

    nothin wrong with that doe. errbody likes what they like.



  • well derp I agree as I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on this forum who doesnt have a 2d hentai collection :D

    I never liked umemaro either, despite his god-like status among 3d fans

    horses for courses I guess



  • @'Fred5150':

    @'thederp':

    It is my opinion that it is 'easier' to make 'good' 2d porn as opposed to 3D. most 3dX is poor quality.

    I agree, but when 3DX is done well it easily surpasses anything from rl or 2d porn

    Don't forget 3d is still young compared to the other porn formats!

    I would say it depends of course. Some like RL Porn and hate 2d but will be fine with 3DX.

    But I do fully agree that 3SX is indeed young compared to other formats



  • My take on it is that much 3dx doesnt look real, the tongues generally look silly and any liquid (sperm, water, spit, whatever) almost always looks wrong. The actors are generally beautiful but much around them looks bad and much of it is over the top (which is also a strength) the breasts are often huge and absolutely perfect, the waists are tiny, the cocks are massive and so are the loads.



  • I don't really care why people don't like it.

    So long as it keeps evolving and the quality keeps improving (and I see no reason why it will not), then animated porn will take off.

    The notion that you can have ANY type of look of characters, doing ANYTHING you want with them and at a tiny fraction of what it would cost real actors to do anything remotely the same means that eventually 3D pornography will win out.

    Also, there is a karma aspect, IMO.

    There are numerous stories if ex-pornstars being depressed, killing themselves, turning to God…and many of them recount how degrading porn was for them.
    Animation completely eliminates that part of the criteria. No one gets used, abused or taken advantage of...it's guilt-free pornography.

    Sure, no matter how realistic it gets, there will always be people that want the real thing.

    But animated porn will one day be more common then the real thing...I am certain of it.

    So people whining about it now bother me not at all. Like all new technologies/forms of art...most people just don't like change.



  • @'thederp':

    It is my opinion that it is 'easier' to make 'good' 2d porn as opposed to 3D. most 3dX is poor quality.

    I agree, but when 3DX is done well it easily surpasses anything from rl or 2d porn

    Don't forget 3d is still young compared to the other porn formats!



  • It is my opinion that it is 'easier' to make 'good' 2d porn as opposed to 3D. most 3dX is poor quality.



  • You can add my set to the above post later on today ;) I will go for traditional pairings aswell. The fantasy series, which will be next up, may have some elves and maybe a goblin or something other rather humanlike. I wont go for monster stuff though and my goblin is a rather cute little bugger :)



  • Well, we can rest assured then that Miro has surpassed his inspiration. Compared to G4E, Umemaro's work actually looks sort of… last gen. Or is that because it is?



  • @'GrumpyBear':

    I am really new to this, and haven't found much in my searches and based my statement about the monsters, demons, etc. strictly on what I've found in my online searches so far.

    Also, you mention "Umemaro". Where would one find this as I would love to see it?

    Another thing, Sully. I meant no offense whatsoever to the talented artists of static 3D artwork. I wish I had 10% of the talent I've seen here so far from the many fine artists. I was just merely stating my personal preferences.

    http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE036284.html

    I believe Umemaro was one of Miro's inspirations to even try getting into animation. Umemaro's stuff is some of the most respected when it comes to 3dX animation. I recommend Consultation Room because that's pretty much where his art style has acheived it's true look/identity, it was such a huge jump over his previous piece. I also recommend this one because it had a great english dub which he's gone away from after Twin Succubus sadly and has gone back to doing subtitles. Of course you'll have to put up with the censoring as well. :angel:

    And no worries, i dont think any of the (picture set) artists were offended at all (right guys???) You presented your preferences in a mature manner :cool: But fyi, Miro who did GF4E started out with picture sets as well, it's where they hone their lighting, posing, composition skills. Here's just a few traditional pairing offerings for ya:



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  • I would venture to suggest this:

    In the last few years, while the price of making 3DX drops, the amount for hardware to most hobbyists has remained the same. For example, a custom job which includes a top end CPU and graphics card, etc is roughly $700 - $1000, way beyond the monthly discretionary spending of most 3DX artists. As a result, most decide to go commercial early without any real experience or don't buy a y 3d stuff for a while or they have worn out the PC they already have, which was what Fred did. It is because of the high cost of hardware - which is going down but to some not fast enough - that is keeping people from working on and releasing those animations more and more folks wanna see. Plus animation in general requires a lot of work in the mental department. And don't get me started on the software Miro's got. That would require a small loan :) only he could make g4e cause he has the tools and the big enough perversion. So the point is getting the hardware is much like getting a Ferrari, albeit a small one. Fred talked about this in detail in his front page piece. The price to be better in 3DX is high indeed. It, in the end, has everything to do with the driver.

    ~GO



  • @'Sully':

    @'GrumpyBear':

    Personally, I only like the animated material. Static images just don't do it for me. Also, too much of the material is monsters, ogres, aliens, tentacles, etc. I would like to see more animations with quality and content of "Girlfriends 4Ever" with more traditional sexual pairings.

    Fair enough, if done right…animation will beat static images most of the time. The problem is, it's pretty damn hard...very time consuming when it comes to keyframing, not to mention playing with the animation curves to get the timing/speed right. So if the animation is just abit off, it really sticks out like a sore thumb and can ruin the whole clip. On top of that, there's soundfx, voice, music...it becomes quite the production compared to a picture set. So unless you crank out quality to the level of Umemaro or GF4E...you can forget about recooping the time and money you spent making it.

    The argument is usually that the HUGE advantage of doing 3dx is because you can do themes/characters that can't be done in hollywood live porn. Hence, that's why u get stuff like dickgirls and demons. Also, I would say that really only 30-40% of the 3dx out there involves supernatural and fantasy themes. There's alot of straight up plain ol' human sex out there, like you say "traditional" stuff. :shy:

    I am really new to this, and haven't found much in my searches and based my statement about the monsters, demons, etc. strictly on what I've found in my online searches so far.

    Also, you mention "Umemaro". Where would one find this as I would love to see it?

    Another thing, Sully. I meant no offense whatsoever to the talented artists of static 3D artwork. I wish I had 10% of the talent I've seen here so far from the many fine artists. I was just merely stating my personal preferences.



  • @'GrumpyBear':

    Personally, I only like the animated material. Static images just don't do it for me. Also, too much of the material is monsters, ogres, aliens, tentacles, etc. I would like to see more animations with quality and content of "Girlfriends 4Ever" with more traditional sexual pairings.

    I agree with this, though I understand how hard it is to make an animation. So I'm thankful for what we get. Could tone down a bit on all the ogres and monsters though, like you said. My preference goes towards more real life porn that is nevertheless in the realm of fiction (ie dickgirls).



  • @'GrumpyBear':

    Personally, I only like the animated material. Static images just don't do it for me. Also, too much of the material is monsters, ogres, aliens, tentacles, etc. I would like to see more animations with quality and content of "Girlfriends 4Ever" with more traditional sexual pairings.

    Fair enough, if done right…animation will beat static images most of the time. The problem is, it's pretty damn hard...very time consuming when it comes to keyframing, not to mention playing with the animation curves to get the timing/speed right. So if the animation is just abit off, it really sticks out like a sore thumb and can ruin the whole clip. On top of that, there's soundfx, voice, music...it becomes quite the production compared to a picture set. So unless you crank out quality to the level of Umemaro or GF4E...you can forget about recooping the time and money you spent making it.

    The argument is usually that the HUGE advantage of doing 3dx is because you can do themes/characters that can't be done in hollywood live porn. Hence, that's why u get stuff like dickgirls and demons. Also, I would say that really only 30-40% of the 3dx out there involves supernatural and fantasy themes. There's alot of straight up plain ol' human sex out there, like you say "traditional" stuff. :shy:



  • Personally, I only like the animated material. Static images just don't do it for me. Also, too much of the material is monsters, ogres, aliens, tentacles, etc. I would like to see more animations with quality and content of "Girlfriends 4Ever" with more traditional sexual pairings.


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